Throw 28 point builds a freakin bone...

[Shagn]

Okay, not talking about Shroud ingredients here...

Has it been considered to offer people who still play their 28 point builds the extra 4 stat points? So we ground out to 1750 favor and unlock 32 point builds, but that does not really help our original characters... especially people who have been playing DDO since the beginning and have several 28 point builds.

It would make a whole lot of people very happy if we could upgrade our 'old' characters to 32 point builds. It would not unbalance the game because there are already several 32 point builds running around. I know several people who do not play their 28 point builds any more (and a lot of them were clerics).

Give us something challenging. Maybe a unique quest or something like how we get our dragonmarks...

I would be okay with burning through some more favor - perhaps 2500 favor? The reward could be a bound +3 tome (similar to how we got a +2 at 1750), but the added bonus would be for the 28 point build characters could go to their trainer and distribute the 4 points into their wanted stats.

[totmacher]

have you got it out of your system now

[Inspire]

Okay, not talking about Shroud ingredients here...

Has it been considered to offer people who still play their 28 point builds the extra 4 stat points? So we ground out to 1750 favor and unlock 32 point builds, but that does not really help our original characters... especially people who have been playing DDO since the beginning and have several 28 point builds.

It would make a whole lot of people very happy if we could upgrade our 'old' characters to 32 point builds. It would not unbalance the game because there are already several 32 point builds running around. I know several people who do not play their 28 point builds any more (and a lot of them were clerics).

Give us something challenging. Maybe a unique quest or something like how we get our dragonmarks...

I would be okay with burning through some more favor - perhaps 2500 favor? The reward could be a bound +3 tome (similar to how we got a +2 at 1750), but the added bonus would be for the 28 point build characters could go to their trainer and distribute the 4 points into their wanted stats.

I Had To Reroll All My 28Pt Builds... Would Be Upset If This Was Introduced, They Had All The Uber Gear.

[Impaqt]

I was wondering when this was gonna come up again....

My original 28pt cleric is still goin stong. I dont feel hes gimped in any way. the only person who knows it s 28pt build is YOU. no one can tell from the way your character is played wheter its a 28 or 32 pt build. Best case scenario your not even getting +1 to hit or +1 dc on your spells.... 32points are nice of deep multiclass builds that requires a lot of mid of high stats, but it really doesnt make a hill of beans worth of difference on most pure or light mc builds.

If your 28pt character is gimped, it most likely would of been gimped with 32 points as well.

[Dexxaan]

have you got it out of your system now

LOL

I Had To Reroll All My 28Pt Builds... Would Be Upset If This Was Introduced, They Had All The Uber Gear.

/Agreed (Did the same)

I was wondering when this was gonna come up again....

If your 28pt character is gimped, it most likely would of been gimped with 32 points as well.

/Agredd (Will place Plat on it too)

Any Dev-Time wasted on anything as paternalistic as this would truly stink.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

LOL



/Agreed (Did the same)



/Agredd (Will place Plat on it too)

Any Dev-Time wasted on anything as paternalistic as this would truly stink.

I was totally with you up until the highlighted part.....

[Dexxaan]

I was totally with you up until the highlighted part.....

And your point is....?

....you are saying Dev-Time on a subject such as this would be a worth while "Investment"? (Excluding the fact that from a business stand point it "could" turn a sour faced casual player into a smiling one....)

Anyways...sorry I lost your vote.

[jmonty]

what, a plus two tome of your choice isn't good enough?

[Inspire]

And your point is....?

....you are saying Dev-Time on a subject such as this would be a worth while "Investment"? (Excluding the fact that from a business stand point it "could" turn a sour faced casual player into a smiling one....)

Anyways...sorry I lost your vote.

It Would Also Promote Power Lvling, As People Would Not Bother With 1750 Favor(Unless They Wanted The Favor For Something Or Personal Pride).

[Vorn]

I still play my 28 point "gimp" elf pure-fighter all the time. I'm not too worried about the 4 build points, though it might be nice. I'd be more interested in the good dev's figuring out a way to respec skill points as I made some choices at creation that have, two year's later, proved to be imprudent. If they don't though, no biggie. I still like my moments-after-the-servers-went-live guy and will continue playing him until the game goes away.

[DoctorWhofan]

I was wondering when this was gonna come up again....

My original 28pt cleric is still goin stong. I dont feel hes gimped in any way. the only person who knows it s 28pt build is YOU. no one can tell from the way your character is played wheter its a 28 or 32 pt build. Best case scenario your not even getting +1 to hit or +1 dc on your spells.... 32points are nice of deep multiclass builds that requires a lot of mid of high stats, but it really doesnt make a hill of beans worth of difference on most pure or light mc builds.

If your 28pt character is gimped, it most likely would of been gimped with 32 points as well.

agreed.

Half my characters are 28pt builds. Trissa, my current oldest, is a drow. I have no issue playing my 28 pt builds. The one that is gimped, is because I chose to play a PnP Pally instead of a DDO pally. He's almost shroud ready. In fact, the only one of my level 15-16 toons is a 32 pt. build. How you create them, how you build them makes the difference. Not four points. That's just bonus.

[StanC]

I Had To Reroll All My 28Pt Builds... Would Be Upset If This Was Introduced, They Had All The Uber Gear.

Nothing in the game said that you had to reroll your 28pt builds. It was a choice you made. The +2 tome that was given more then compensates for the 4 extra build points on the 32pt builds.

[Gennerik]

It would be nice to actually reward the character that unlocks the initial reward with a way to be just like your other characters, but as a general thing, it's really not necessary. I know of the three characters that I have that are level 15-16, only one of them is a 32-point character. I would love to get my other two those four extra ability score buy-points, but they'd just go into making my characters a little more rounded, not really more powerful, so there wouldn't be too much more of a difference (the Barbarian would probably get 1 more point of Str and 1 Wis, while the Cleric would get 2 points of Con).

I'd like if it happens, but really don't care if it does or doesn't. I've found that I like playing my two characters enough that I don't feel like re-rolling either of them.

[Oreg]

How bout a swift kick in the nutzors you whiney bastige

Be happy that you are allowed to play...

means I can't be reported for harrasement as it is a joke post.

Seriously, the +2 tome is adequate enough reward IMO.

[DoctorWhofan]

Nothing in the game said that you had to reroll your 28pt builds. It was a choice you made. The +2 tome that was given more then compensates for the 4 extra build points on the 32pt builds.

you know, you are right. I forgot about that! +2 tome = 4 stat points respectivally.

[GlassCannon]

what, a plus two tome of your choice isn't good enough?

2 +2 tomes would be more balanced, according to where I would stick them.



Or... a +3 tome(unless you count me pumping INT into my Sorc, in which case I would need a +4 tome. Her UMD was N/A until lvl 13)

[Dexxaan]

How bout a swift kick in the nutzors you whiney bastige

Be happy that you are allowed to play...

means I can't be reported for harrasement as it is a joke post.

Seriously, the +2 tome is adequate enough reward IMO.

/Agreed

2 +2 tomes would be more balanced, according to where I would stick them.

More Balanced? Wherever your planning on sticking 'em must be pretty big if you NEED 2!!

(Sorry you set yourself up!)

[Tanka]

My Dwarven Fighter, Honos, is still going strong with only 28pt, messed up skill/stat allocation and alignment stupidity. In fact, he'd even be better off as a Barbarian.

But I still play him, despite all my hangups on him. Because he's a solid build, even if I could've made a few changes to him.

If you think your 28pter is gimped, it'll still be gimped with 32pts.

[MissErres]

what, a plus two tome of your choice isn't good enough?

32pt builds get those tomes as well, if and when they reach favor.

[KoboldKiller]

28pt 32pt bah, who cares. I just want some wenching in the game.