Toughness a class skill?

[Borror0]

Don't think that kinda barb is any way better than that fighter/monk.
(I'm not saying the fighter/monk is better either. I'm saying there's no point.)

Bah, he has higher DPS and similar or equal saves to the monk. Only place where the monk is better is Evasion...

[iruka41]

Bah, he has higher DPS and similar or equal saves to the monk. Only place where the monk is better is Evasion...

Well, the monk has higher reflex save and evasion. Dwarves with about 20 reflex save can make save alomost every spells in the game due to their natural spell saves and enhancements. And the monk recieves better heals. I personally think it is well suited with the high HP concept. He will get less hurt, he is more easily healed. Only place the barb is better is that already low, little bit higher DPS... I'll say they're even.. Especially when the monk is using dual-vorp kamas Cause the barb will NEVER be good at vorpalling since he doesn't have TWF with the HP build.

[Borror0]

Well, the monk has higher reflex save and evasion. Dwarves with about 20 reflex save can make save alomost every spells in the game due to their natural spell saves and enhancements. And the monk recieves better heals. I personally think it is well suited with the high HP concept. He will get less hurt, he is more easily healed. Only place the barb is better is that already low, little bit higher DPS... I'll say they're even..

Can we start arguing about which bad builds is the less worse?

[iruka41]

Can we start arguing about which bad builds is the less worse?

Don't think we need to lol.

[Borror0]

Don't think we need to lol.

Brain fart of mine, I meant stop.. XD

[Maegin]

Wow, you actually gave up for once O_o lol! jk ^_^

[Myxalplyx]

Bringing back up from the dead

I have just created two of these horrors on the Khyber server.......just because.

Lvl 13: Dwarven/Barbarian (Name: HPS)
Total HP = 513 Unraged (About 58? raged).
Notes: Besides HP, I try to get damage reduction in where I can. Only a dr of 5 now. Took all toughness feats.

Lvl 10: Warforged/Monk (Name: Toughness)
Total HP = 324
Took all toughness feats. Doesn't seem like warforged damage reduction stacks with the feat. Correct me if I'm wrong. Seeing Adamantine separated from regular damage reduction. Sucks!

Strangely enough, the Dwarven Barbarian doesn't get hurt that much on quest. At least the hp bar doesn't seem like it. My warforged/monk gets beat down quite often soloing. In a group, he fairs ok.

Will continue both gimp builds to the max just to see how they end up. Each carry 400+ pots on them so no biggy. With the candy canes helping out as well......they are always healing (especially the warforged). Will see how they turn out.

[Aerendil]

Also keep in mind that the Monk/Fighter combination will have Evasion, great saves, the ability to self-heal, and quite possibly amazing AC as well.

12 Fighter (Kensai) / 8 Monk for end-game is looking pretty good, especially if Human (dragonmark line will grant Dimension Door, replacing the level 12 Monk ability - but still having access to Wholeness of Body).

[QuantumFX]

(dragonmark line will grant Dimension Door, replacing the level 12 Monk ability - but still having access to Wholeness of Body).

If you’re referring to abundant step - No, it won't replace it in DDO. Abundant Step is simply the best DDO monk feat ever.

[Myxalplyx]

My warforged/monk (Toughness) is lvl 15 now. He has 590hp. So far so good.

[Borror0]

My warforged/monk (Toughness) is lvl 15 now. He has 590hp. So far so good.

You should consider trading some of that HP for AC... or even DPS...

[rimble]

My warforged/monk (Toughness) is lvl 15 now. He has 590hp. So far so good.

That's awesome! I mean, please don't group with me, but that's an awesome screenshot and a crazy build!

[Myxalplyx]

You should consider trading some of that HP for AC... or even DPS...

This was only done to see what would happen if I went for straight HP as monk. Trading in HP for anything would be against the toons name 'Toughness'. I already have a lvl 16 warforged/monk build with ok AC (Adamantimonk). This was only a gimp-test build.

[Borror0]

This was only a gimp-test build.

Well, he gets full marks. I have never seen such a pure class gimp.

[Myxalplyx]

Not quite capped yet since I have been playing my other toons but 'Toughness' is at level 16 now. I have no raid or special items yet. Just the mountain stance and the toughness feat (of course). I am at 636hp now.




Also, I am not too much of a threat to any groups. I have some levels of Healer's friend and monk recovery. As far as pots go, I always carry 800 repair pots on me at all times. Inventory is considered low at 600 pots.