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    Default Loot Option: CASH VALUE!

    I would like to see a "Cash Option" added to the game options menu.

    The Cash option would remove items that aren't of your class/race type in terms of armor and weaponry and replace them with gold and gems of an appropriate and equal value.

    For example:

    If normally a wizard would get

    Full Plate Armor +1
    Quarterstaff +2
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    Instead it'd be

    Quartertsaff +2
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    cash option for end reward would make sense and be nice, but for random chests? I cant agree to that. The cash could be like 40-50% of base value of the other items. Full base value would be too much.
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    Can we make the game any easier?

    Also would not work for multiclasses. Would not work because that WoP Rapier is great for any class not just melee types.
    Different vendors charge different sale prices. I like the fact that my new monk can go to marketplace/house D and pick up a +1/+2 weapon that someone who didn't need it sold there.

    I only want to see one change to the loot mechanics. A "Loot All" button please.
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    I think it could be an option, perhaps, but sometimes, the items presented might be good. How would you like your +2 W/P Rapier zapped to gold simply because you are on your mage....
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    it would not be a bad option for those inclined.... though like others I d keep it turned off... I figure I ll get more stuff for the AH that way!

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    So that +5 Mithril FP my sorc would have pulled is converted to a few hundred plat?

    I don't get the reasoning here... are you trying to eliminate having to sell stuff to the vendor?
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    aye, and after they do that they should put in some AI so my character will play itself and I can just sit back and watch him go. Seriously.. I can't be arsed to push buttons and move mice... I'm paying for the game after all...

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    I'm going to go ahead and save you and me some time and pretty much say:

    I'll go ahead and disagree with every post you make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhykke View Post
    I'm going to go ahead and save you and me some time and pretty much say:

    I'll go ahead and disagree with every post you make.
    ouch! a little snipy there, huh mhykke XD
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    Default I could be missing the point but...

    I think he doesn't pull things for his class from chests.

    Ever.


    I had this problem with my Ranger, my Sorc, my Paladin, my Ba... hell, every d@mn character I ever made, including my Monk.


    I do occasionally find something nice for one of said characters with a different one, i.e. my Sorc has a Bow Pull day ... and pulls a couple AWESOME ranged weapons. Of course ye olde Rogue who does not get full benefit from them ever, and I do mean never, in party begs for them for a bit... and I mail em off. I pull really nice caster items with my Tank, I pull great Tank stuff with my DEX Ranger and Healing Bard, I pull nothing but heavy armor and worthless junk with my Cleric(My Bard funds everything she does)... my Barbarian and Tempest Ranger pull Mnemonics, my caster pulls strange combinations of Trip and Sunder weaponry, and Fullplate(SHE HAS 8 STR, WHAT THE HECK!!??!), and my Bard is the one finding all the Devotion and Potency items.

    I was told "It's random, lol, get used to it!" and that PnP loot tables were just as screwy despite common sense kicking in and the caster spying the caster item in chest to grab, the tank snatching up the vorpal, the rogue darting in to ninjaloot all the gems and gold, and that shiny dagger at the bottom left corner...
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    So you folks are against OTHER PEOPLE having the option to do this, it being a purely "opt in" thing?

    You can't be serious.

    You're AGAINST people having MORE options to suit the gameplay to their individual needs?


    Look, you you and you may have an hour to spend in front of the auction house.

    I don't. Most time I just vendor the ****... but I hate lugging it around with me to begin with, and shuffling through the assorted **** I don't want to keep the assorted **** I DO want.

    So, rather than carting around 20 things of bull dung and three suits of chainmail +1 on my Sorc... I'd like to just save the trip 9and the encumbrance) and just have it converted to cash value on th spot.

    Even if it's VENDOR cash value...I'm fine with that (i.e. the normal half price).

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    Quote Originally Posted by villainsimple View Post
    I would like to see a "Cash Option" added to the game options menu.

    The Cash option would remove items that aren't of your class/race type in terms of armor and weaponry and replace them with gold and gems of an appropriate and equal value.
    So, you don't want to loot a +5 Fearsome Mithril Fullplate? Or an Holy, Silver weapon?

    I can't see anyone using that option, besides, too much trouble to code for the gain. (if any)
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    Quote Originally Posted by villainsimple View Post
    I don't. Most time I just vendor the ****... but I hate lugging it around with me to begin with, and shuffling through the assorted **** I don't want to keep the assorted **** I DO want.

    So, rather than carting around 20 things of bull dung and three suits of chainmail +1 on my Sorc... I'd like to just save the trip 9and the encumbrance) and just have it converted to cash value on th spot.

    Even if it's VENDOR cash value...I'm fine with that (i.e. the normal half price).
    You can sell/repair in all inn's now, where a lot of people end up to recharge mana/health/clickys. It's not exactly an inconvenience. And the other question is why spend the dev time to create this option when it actually would benefit the isolated few.

    You should try Dungeon Siege 2, has a spell that converts items to gold :P



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    I think hes talking more of as an end reward type of thing rather then all chests...though I may be wrong. I could see using it on the end reward by not for normal chests.

    I would be fine with it if the default was off so that you had to choose to use the option to convert stuff over.
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    Hate it more dumbing down of the game


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    Quote Originally Posted by villainsimple View Post
    So you folks are against OTHER PEOPLE having the option to do this, it being a purely "opt in" thing?
    You can't be serious.
    You're AGAINST people having MORE options to suit the gameplay to their individual needs?
    Lets see here... spend the time, effort, and money to implement something that would only be used by a bare handful of players...

    or...

    spend that time, effort, and money to implement bug fixes and new content.

    YES, I'm against it. Deal. You have your opinion, we have ours.

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    I'd like it just for my characters with low strength, so if I'm running a big quest with lots of chests I don't get gimped out of items to sell because I can't carry 2 sets of fullplate and 4 or 5 shields which seem to have been increased in recent times...

    Quote Originally Posted by villainsimple View Post
    I would like to see a "Cash Option" added to the game options menu.

    The Cash option would remove items that aren't of your class/race type in terms of armor and weaponry and replace them with gold and gems of an appropriate and equal value.

    For example:

    If normally a wizard would get

    Full Plate Armor +1
    Quarterstaff +2
    Cleric Spell Components
    Gold
    Gems

    Instead it'd be

    Quartertsaff +2
    More Gold
    Gems
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    You know what makes this game fun..the Challenge...not the gee this was easy. Im sorry im for making the game tougher not easier.

    I could see you complaining about never getting loot that is specific to your toon...but just because you don't wanna haul vendor trash to the vendor you think they should just make it easy and hand you the plat.....um... let me go ahead and say its that kinda crud that will destroy this game more than all the bean counters / devs could ever! If you don't want the bulls dung....don't pick it up...you are not required to take everything in a chest for you...heck you could even ....... (wait for it) ...... give it to someone in the party that needs it!!!! I know i know...where do i get the nutty ideas!!!! Im a visionary ya know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missing Minds View Post
    Lets see here... spend the time, effort, and money to implement something that would only be used by a bare handful of players...

    or...

    spend that time, effort, and money to implement bug fixes and new content.

    YES, I'm against it. Deal. You have your opinion, we have ours.
    Fortunately for me you're wrong.

    The basic premise of your assertion rests on the idea that people are clamoring for the junk that clogs up their backpacks. Once you reach a certain point the additional stuff is just a hassle.

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    No, and for a number of reasons.

    Wastes Dev time on a pointless exercise. It is not as simple as it seems. Robes are Armor but a Wiz likely wears them right, but some robes are worn by rangers and rogues, so I guess robes are not Wiz unique. Ok, Wands are Wiz items, or are they UMD triggered items, so that might not mean they are Wiz/Sorc only now does it? What about weapons, well anyone can take a Feat or even certain enhancements or races and use non traditional weapons, so perhaps we need to check that those Drow weapons are not excluded from the Bard or Sorc listing? What about multiclassed toons? The coding to really set up what you seem to want is either extremely simplistic or a whole pile of effort, and beyond that, what percentage of value would you get. The nomimal 10% of base value from the Barkeep? the 12.5% from the broker, or how will Haggle Skill boost this, should the game then figure out what sort of max haggle you have or could, with or without spell boosts, or item switching?

    give me examples of any quests you run where you do not have a chance to sell off stuff like you need to on a regular basis even to barkeeps for the bare minumum. Characters do need to repair items on a regular basis too. If you are choosing to run around with only a small handful of open loot spots, that is choice you made. It is fairly easy to get to 100 loot spots, plus equipped gear, plus with bags for gems, collectibles and quivers now you have even more space.
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