Whirling hatred

[ShadowFox1978]

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Level 16 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(12 Fighter \ 2 Paladin \ 2 Monk)
Hit Points: 392
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 22
Reflex: 16
Will: 14

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 8 12
Dexterity 16 22
Constitution 16 20
Intelligence 12 13
Wisdom 14 16
Charisma 12 14

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 8 21
Bluff 1 2
Concentration 4 5
Diplomacy 1 2
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 1 2
Heal 2 3
Hide 4 6
Intimidate 3 31
Jump 4 18
Listen 2 3
Move Silently 4 6
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 1
Search 1 3
Spot 6 8
Swim 0 1
Tumble 8 11
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate


Level 4 (Paladin)


Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Whirlwind Attack


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost IV
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense III
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness I
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness II
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness III
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness IV
Enhancement: Way of the Tenacious Badger I
Enhancement: Disciple of Puddles
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate II
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate III
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate IV
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV

The goal: High AC/HP Max intimidate. High saves plus evasion.

The numbers:

AC:

10 base
09 dex
07 wis
01 aura
01 centered
05 prot
07 bracers
04 dodge
05 CE
02 luck
04 insight
-------
55 ( unbuffed no sheild) I could rework enhancements for Towers and when needed use a mith sheild for higher AC and DR.


HP:

140 fighter
016 monk
020 pally
020 heroic
054 Toughness
100 toughness enh.
104 con
010 favor
030 False life
-------
488

Saves:

28 fort+5(spells)+33
22 refl+5+27
20 will+5+25

Intim:

34 base
15 item
02 luck
04 G hero
06 Shroud item
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61

I could use improved crit slashing and go with Kamas, but I like the idea of punching stuff. Ac could go higher with a shroud item for HP.

Feedback welcome.

[ShadowFox1978]

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Level 1 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(1 Monk)
Hit Points: 35
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 0
Fortitude: 6
Reflex: 6
Will: 3

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 1)
Strength 8 10
Dexterity 16 18
Constitution 16 18
Intelligence 12 13
Wisdom 12 12
Charisma 12 12

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 1)
Balance 8 8
Bluff 1 1
Concentration 4 4
Diplomacy 1 1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 1 1
Heal 1 1
Hide 4 4
Intimidate 3 3
Jump 4 4
Listen 1 1
Move Silently 4 4
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 1
Search 1 1
Spot 5 5
Swim 0 0
Tumble 8 8
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Comparable to the Dwarf, but 50 less HP and 1 or 2 less AC. It has superior DR if you can get a docent of Defiance.

[Aeneas]

Those punch attacks aren't going to measure up to a real monk's even, they have a damage dice progression that increases every few monk levels. How do you manage to stay effective? (not panning your build, i'm just interested in your strategy)

[maddmatt70]

Why no Stunning Blow. A bludgeoning fighter without stunning blow?

[Aeneas]

good call that, norg. I'd be spamming stunning fist then stunning blow constantly.

[ShadowFox1978]

The dps is the big thing holding me back from rolling the char. I am actually thinking slashing for kamas to help with that. I wish q-staves were implemented correctly. They should be a double weapon and finessable. I left out the stunning blow and stunning fist because I won't have the str to make blow effective and not enough wisdom to make fist land. I suppose I could look for a good set of weighted wraps and roll with that. Any other thoughts?

[Impaqt]

WHere does a 34 Base Intim COme from?

[ShadowFox1978]

WHere does a 34 Base Intim COme from?

The build as posted includes no stat items. Adding a +6 cha item adds three to the listed 31=base 34.

[Impaqt]

The build as posted includes no stat items. Adding a +6 cha item adds three to the listed 31=base 34.

I understood that..

19 Ranks
6 CHR
3 SF Intim
4 Enhancment
---
32

EDIT NVM, I missed Bullheaded.......

2

34




WHeres the other 2?

[ShadowFox1978]

I understood that..

19 Ranks
6 CHR
3 SF Intim
4 Enhancment
---
32

EDIT NVM, I missed Bullheaded.......

2

34




WHeres the other 2?

2 is luck bonus(reaver head or +1 for voice of the master) and +1 from way of the badger(monk)

[ShadowFox1978]

Had a new thought. Since I miss counted and I won't actually have a centered bonus at 2 monk. I could go TWF and use mineral rapiers. But, I don't know if the wisdom bonus to AC while uncentered is working as intended.

[maddmatt70]

The dps is the big thing holding me back from rolling the char. I am actually thinking slashing for kamas to help with that. I wish q-staves were implemented correctly. They should be a double weapon and finessable. I left out the stunning blow and stunning fist because I won't have the str to make blow effective and not enough wisdom to make fist land. I suppose I could look for a good set of weighted wraps and roll with that. Any other thoughts?

I think the point is why make a bludgeon specced fighter who doesn't have a good stunning blow dc. It seems counterproductive and wasteful. You might as well make another class which would have more synergies like ranger..

[ShadowFox1978]

I think the point is why make a bludgeon specced fighter who doesn't have a good stunning blow dc. It seems counterproductive and wasteful. You might as well make another class which would have more synergies like ranger..

I had that thought also, and was actually tinkering with the planner. But, the big issue their is flurry doesn't work with TWFing. Probably not a big issue as the flurry won't be very strong on a splash monk. Monk ranger could be very strong if they ever put in zen archery.

[ShadowFox1978]

What do you guys think of switching to Pierce spec? Dual mineral rapiers. Both Holy. One exceptional AC and the other exceptional wisdom? That should help with the dps. Any thoughts? I could also rob some points from Con, and bump up strength. Any thoughts? I really want to solve the DPS problem. I think the rest of the build hp,saves and AC are pretty solid.

[Aeneas]

I thought that using anything other than monk weapons uncenters you.

[ShadowFox1978]

I thought that using anything other than monk weapons uncenters you.

It does, but I have no centered AC bonus. And currently(not sure if it is abug or not) you only lose your wisdom bonus to AC if you put on Armor. You can be uncentered and still get the wisdom bonus to AC. My other thought was take 2 points from dex and wisdom,lose two points of ac, bump strength up to base 14 and use q-staves.

[Aeneas]

Ooo, i didn't know that you could keep that AC bonus. Is that WAI?

[Blazer]

Since monks are still so new, and we're getting so little communication from Turbine and the devs these days, might be best to err on the side of caution and assume that it will get fixed. Would hate to see another round of builds get trashed a la the infamous "evasion in heavy armor" deal from back in the day.

[ShadowFox1978]

I don't know if it WAI. But, there is no feat or anything listed in the character sheet to check either. It has been a long time since I ran a monk in p&p, but I think you kept the wisdom bonus as long as you didn't use a sheild or armor. The devs are aware of the issue and have never posted it as a Known bug. Just remember you can not build ki or assume a stance while uncentered.