Stunning Blow? Stunning Fist?

[geoffhanna]

Differences? One says Save 14, the other Save 17? Why?

Does Weighted work on both?

Why are there two of them?

Any reason to have them both?

[rodgyramjet]

Im pretty sure Stunning blow is 10 + STR BONUS + Weighted and WF or Dwarf bonus........ and Stunning fist is 10 + wisdom above 10...

Just my early guess, could be wrong.

[Aeneas]

Yep, stunning blow is strength + enh + weighted based. Stunning fist is based on 1/2 monk level + wisdom modifier. Both have an initial base of 10.

[Aeneas]

Yep, stunning blow is strength + enh + weighted based. Stunning fist is based on 1/2 monk level + wisdom modifier. Both have an initial base of 10.

*I don't know if combat feat modifiers from enhancements work for stunning fist, or if monks have their own line of stunning fist enhancements, haven't leveled one far enough to know*

[Delzon]

From my readings of the tests people have posted on the forums, stunning fist can not get as high a save as stunning blow and high level plain monsters like gnolls save all the time. Bottom line if you want to stun things, be a fighter. Which is to sad since it is suppose to be a special kind of attacks for monks.

[Illuminati]

Right now the DC for stunning fist is low at high level (remember to debuff mobs or use it on casters), but I would look for weighted to either add to the effect (prob not coded yet).

[Rameses]

atm the moment wieghted does not work with stunning fist. I hope this is a bug.

[geoffhanna]

Thanks everyone.

Have to redo that feat I guess

[Kargon]

are no reasamon cant have both and use them while othermer one are on cooldown. stunnaming fist are wisdom based, recharge fastermer, but use 15 ki and are fists only, while stunnaming blow work with weightamed and can use without ki but have longer cooldown.

are true though that stunnaming fist geared towards dex and wisdom based finesse monks.