Suulomedes Arcane Strategies

[Borror0]

I just got a vision in my head of Sully sitting down in the middle of the raid and faking an orgasm.

I won't comment on this post...

[Yaga_Nub]

There are many other potential ways to blunt the threat of bearded devils, who are really the most dangerous part of the raid.

Interesting - I have found the Red-Named Orthons to be the issue. The Devils get CC'ed, Vorp'ed, or Bang'ed no problem.

Controlling the devils allows you to take care of the Orthons much easier.

[Yaga_Nub]

I won't comment on this post...

You started it.

[juniorpfactors]

That, plus the bats.

The devils arequite easy themselves, but it's rather the amount that makes them dangerous: they waste resources.

bats... symbol of death.... bb extend it...acid fog extend it....fireshield up/ firestorm greaves on/ TANKS dont madstone rage....drink your pot

jr

[juniorpfactors]

Controlling the devils allows you to take care of the Orthons much easier.

you dont need to control it if its already dead

jr

[sirgog]

It's usually with you that I tend to forget useful and obvious stuff... like Combat Expertise. >.<

By the way, is Symbol of Persuasion blocked by the Mandate?

I'd assume it is, as (going by the combat log desciptions) the Suggestion spells make a foe 'susceptible to suggestion' i.e. not techincally charmed, where the Symbol spell (and Charm Monster et al) say 'you are charmed', which should clearly be blocked by the Mandate.

That said, the effect of triggering a Symbol of Persuasion is an exact mirror of the spell Suggestion, except that it works on foes with Intelligence scores of 1 and 2 (i.e. things too dumb to understand speech, like cats)


Might have to do some testing.

[Yaga_Nub]

you dont need to control it if its already dead

jr

And having extra help (via suggestions, symbols, etc.) helps kill things and controls at the same time. two birds, one stone?

[Borror0]

bats... symbol of death.... bb extend it...acid fog extend it....fireshield up/ firestorm greaves on/ TANKS dont madstone rage....drink your pot

You quoted me too early, I added "They're fairly nasty if mis-managed."

Not handled properly, you'll wipe.

[Yaga_Nub]

I'd assume it is, as (going by the combat log desciptions) the Suggestion spells make a foe 'susceptible to suggestion' i.e. not techincally charmed, where the Symbol spell (and Charm Monster et al) say 'you are charmed', which should clearly be blocked by the Mandate.

That said, the effect of triggering a Symbol of Persuasion is an exact mirror of the spell Suggestion, except that it works on foes with Intelligence scores of 1 and 2 (i.e. things too dumb to understand speech, like cats)


Might have to do some testing.

What about bard fascinate and then using suggestion?

(Sorry to derail your thread Asp)

Does Otto's Irresistable dance work on red names? I don't have it on my sorc so I've never tried it.

[Borror0]

Does Otto's Irresistable dance work on red names? I don't have it on my sorc so I've never tried it.

I'd say no, Sphere doesn't so...

Fascinate + Suggestion would probably work. Plus, no SR.

[Inspire]

I'd say no, Sphere doesn't so...

I Thought Enchantment Spells In General Were Considered Void Vs. Red And Purple.

[Borror0]

I Thought Enchantment Spells In General Were Considered Void Vs. Red And Purple.

Anything that can't stop from fighting. Hold, dancing, web, Trip...

[Inspire]

Anything that can't stop from fighting. Hold, dancing, web, Trip...

Are They Immune To Ooze Puppet Aswell? Thatd Be A Bummer.

Heh. I Know Dude, I Believe There Are Spells From Every School, Except Enchantment, That Work On Red And Purple.

[Aranticus]

this has become a worrying trend. mod4 i believe gave trip, stun immunities to red and purple names. and with mod5 came even more immunities. however, those are not the problem. the problem is that whenever they find a raid too easy, they'll just toss in red names to increase the difficulty, ie demon queen. prev: normal gnoll archers, normal efreeti, after: all red named

[Yaga_Nub]

Hey Asp, can you update the first post to reflect the findings so far?

[Desteria]

Our most recent run 17 mins, (if you don;t beleave me and want a SS send a PM with a email addy I'll send it, but i still havent fiured out how to post a SS on these boards), here is what our arcane was doing, He was a Wonderfull sorc with Every single spell we could possibly hope for in one neat little package, i think he used 3 pots ... we area still learnign how much of what is needed when (only my 4th run ever our 3rd as mostly guild and our 2nd completion)...
Helpign out with Resist:Fire/Elec/Snoic; Prot:Fire/Elec;
Blur on every one;
Helping with displacment(the bard got the first round of them, we only realyl worried abotu displacment for the 2 orthon waves)
Stone skin (for thous with out the DQ ring or Min2 item few and far between in our groups but a few note I dont caryr stone skin on my sorc I'm goign to make sure i have a wand or 2) before the first and second orthon waves every thing else is cake if you play it smart;
Keeping A Fog spell up in the main area we wer fighting (acid fog in this case);
Keeping a Web up in the same area;
Keeping Haste up on every one, well him and the bard;
I belive he was also helping with cure removal... NOTE you can use Pot on other at a Big Range carry a stakc of pots and a WAND for seperate cool downs


Kill stuff as it comes down kite Sulu before the chains start or just use a cleric to keep 1 tank up

[Aeneas]

I just got a vision in my head of Sully sitting down in the middle of the raid and faking an orgasm.

........I'll have what he's having.