When can we disassemble greensteel items?

[etelan]

The new recipes are great, but as many others have posted a whole lot of effort went into crafting and upgrading items in mod6 and now those players have to do the very same grind all over again for these new types. I'm sure there is a mass of players who would love to be able to disassemble their obsolete greensteel items to add the upgrades to one of the new types. It's very frustrating to drop a dual tier3 upgrade item in the bank and collect again. I was expected this feature in mod7 (perhaps with horns) but it's becoming apparent it may not happen.

[bandyman1]

/signed

[Borror0]

I could explain why I agree, but I'll just /sign

[TechNoFear]

Ignoring the difficulty of coding the return of ingredients (multi combos to give same item so which ones do you get back?)

I did not want any of the previous green steel items (want hvy pick, rapier or rpt xbow) and saved all my ingredients.

Why didn't you also save your ingredients, if you did not want the green steel item you made?



Or is it just that there are now better items and you want a free ride?

You do realise you are asking Turbine to let you spend LESS time in the game, do not think that will happen.....

[bandyman1]

Ignoring the difficulty of coding the return of ingredients (multi combos to give same item so which ones do you get back?)

I did not want any of the previous green steel items (want hvy pick, rapier or rpt xbow) and saved all my ingredients.

Why didn't you also save your ingredients, if you did not want the green steel item you made?



Or is it just that there are now better items and you want a free ride?

You do realise you are asking Turbine to let you spend LESS time in the game, do not think that will happen.....

Oh....IDK. Maybe because we had no reason to believe that they'd EVER be released untill we'd already made them?

Not to mention the fact that those of us willing to do so are the EXACT reason that you have a nice little list showing you exactly what to combine with what to get the result you want.

Maybe just a little love for those whose labor provided your free ride.

PS; Don't really give a rat's ass what you think.

[maddmatt70]

The server competition makes me feel like a lab rat. There is no counter on tokens you hand in, when there should be - for instance server x is 800 reaver completion tokens away from having satisfied the reaver side of the stipulations. Instead there is some sort of vague we will let you know perhaps on Friday how close you are to the other servers. This is the old horse racing plastic track game.

The greensteel weapon options without deconstruction is just more grind. They had planned this before last mod right down to the never having said there would be any new greensteels last mod- the reason is just to encourage more grinding at the expensive of new content. When am I truly going to get an opportunity to use these new weapons I made last mod much less the weapons they want me to make this mod? There is no high level content so what is the reason that I am clamorouing to make these new shiny weapons to use them on quests where old weapons have been more then sufficient. Beats the heck out of me.

[gpk]

/Signed

It's just ridiculous to all of a sudden change things drastically and not allow for deconstruction of older weapon types.

Add to this the painfully stupid decision to not have something like an NPC that takes splintered horns and gives you Random/Choice ingredients and you really have to wonder what some devs are thinking.

There are just so many crazy and seriously flawed dev decisions being made the last few mods that you really have to wonder what in holy hell is going on...

[Lorien_the_First_One]

It's just ridiculous to all of a sudden change things drastically and not allow for deconstruction of older weapon types.

Come on guys, you knew they were gonna and more later or you weren't paying attention. I mean I wouldn't argue against deconstruction as a grind reducer and even more importantly, to deal with boo boos, but crying about them adding more stuff is not a good reason.

Ignoring the difficulty of coding the return of ingredients (multi combos to give same item so which ones do you get back?)

A random one of the two possibilities would probably work.

I did not want any of the previous green steel items (want hvy pick, rapier or rpt xbow) and saved all my ingredients.

Why didn't you also save your ingredients, if you did not want the green steel item you made?

Or is it just that there are now better items and you want a free ride?.

Yup, exactly Techno

[Pyromaniac]

/agree with OP and it should be a patch not 'next mod' in a year

[Angelus_dead]

Come on guys, you knew they were gonna and more later or you weren't paying attention.

That is simply false. What makes you say something like that?

How did ANYONE "know" they would add axes and rapiers? And if someone did mysteriously have that "knowledge", why were they so evil as to not share it with other players?

[Eudimio]

That is simply false. What makes you say something like that?

How did ANYONE "know" they would add axes and rapiers? And if someone did mysteriously have that "knowledge", why were they so evil as to not share it with other players?

It's okay, mod 7 is here. Good Nuckles is back.

[Grond]

That is simply false. What makes you say something like that?

How did ANYONE "know" they would add axes and rapiers? And if someone did mysteriously have that "knowledge", why were they so evil as to not share it with other players?

Apparently, there were quite a few people who felt that new recipies would be added.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=140084

I realize that when that thread was going on, you were too busy telling everyone they were wrong, but if you read all the replies there were already people back in early March saying, "wait for the ones you want." They were sharing what they understood with you... you chose to ignore them.

[Yaga_Nub]

First off, the devs might not have come right out and said there would be more weapons but you could figure that out if you took the time to read posts and put 1+1+2+1-3+1 together.

Second, so you want the powerful weapons that you could craft but you couldn't stand to wait for any confirmation of other weapons so you made all your dual-shard Tier 3 weapons and now are upset because there is a better weapon out there? Tough titty. That's like saying that because you know there are w/p rapiers that you would vendor a w/p short sword or dagger because they are less effective. BS! You'll use that SS until it falls apart and then reminisce over it until you find another one.

Finally, the devs have turned this game into a grind. Accept that. Yes, I know that it was advertised as the MMO without a grind (can we sue for false advertising ) but the game has morphed into a grind. If you want to stay in DDO it is now a fact that you will have to grind. If you don't like it there are many ways to get around it including such actions as forgoing green steel weapons and/or not playing them game.

I know that everyone compares the game to DnD and says, "Look all you need is already planned out for you in the PH, DMG, and MMs so just program EXACTLY what is in those books and we're golden." That's not the case though because those books weren't designed for real-time play and the devs are creative types that want to put their (DM) spin on things. So knowing this is still a work in progress lets just go along for the ride while it's fun for us.

Yes, we can criticize. Yes, we can complain. Yes, we should offer suggestions (even you A_D and fatherpirate) but we should not be surprised when our vision of this game isn't what the devs vision of the game is. Nor should be surprised when the devs won't hand us an easy button on a silver platter.

[Vorn]

Sometime in the future all these greensteel weapons that are so exciting now will be obsolete. I have no strong feelings either way, just wanted to make a "master of the obvious" type statement.

[Angelus_dead]

First off, the devs might not have come right out and said there would be more weapons but you could figure that out if you took the time to read posts and put 1+1+2+1-3+1 together.

There were no developer posts on that subject, at all.

[Deragoth]

First off, the devs might not have come right out and said there would be more weapons but you could figure that out if you took the time to read posts (and interviews) and put 1+1+2+1-3+1 together.

Second, so you want the powerful weapons that you could craft but you couldn't stand to wait for any confirmation of other weapons so you made all your dual-shard Tier 3 weapons and now are upset because there is a better weapon out there? Tough titty. That's like saying that because you know there are w/p rapiers that you would vendor a w/p short sword or dagger because they are less effective. BS! You'll use that SS until it falls apart and then reminisce over it until you find another one.

Finally, the devs have turned this game into a grind. Accept that. Yes, I know that it was advertised as the MMO without a grind (can we sue for false advertising ) but the game has morphed into a grind. If you want to stay in DDO it is now a fact that you will have to grind. If you don't like it there are many ways to get around it including such actions as forgoing green steel weapons and/or not playing them game. <snip>

QFT.

I know of A LOT of people that saved their ingredients because of this.

[debo]

Don't like the idea of being able to take apart green steel items. This isn't Legos. I feel bad for all who made a maul or ss. It stinks imo. Turbine REALLY REALLY needs to work on its communication. But for the good of the game I think they should leave the system the way it is. Seems it brings up too many complicated issues like exchange rates etc... not to mention the idea that it provides players a way to customize there equipment as the game changes.

[JTsays]

Early adoption has always been painful, I myself suffer with quiet dignity.

I would however like to deconstruct my main character into an xp pool and gear and AP's and rebuild it all in to a level 16 monk now.

I kid but mebbe you see my point of view.

I am totally guessing that it'll be difficult to implement and I'd rather see more content in the game personally.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

There were no developer posts on that subject, at all.

Incorrect. There was at least one post by a dev who said monk weapons were in.

It was also clear from dev posts that this was just the initial implimenation

[Angelus_dead]

Incorrect. There was at least one post by a dev who said monk weapons were in.

Monk weapons are obviously not the subject under consideration. As a reminder, the topic was "Greensteel weapons of our preferred types, mainly axes and rapiers"