Discussion: Future Favor Rewards

[sirgog]

What would you like to see as future rewards for hitting total favor milestones (such as the current 400 and 1750)?

Discuss! My suggestions next post.

[sirgog]

750 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain a bound +1 tome of your choice, plus you unlock Aasimar and Tiefling as two additional playable races. Both are incompatible with 32 point builds (just as Drow currently are).

I think 750 is a reasonable number here as first-time players will tend to hit this by about the time they first hit level 12, so it's available with less grind than the 1750 milestone, which tends to come well after cap. Also, a +1 tome is something newer players will appreciate, as it is a significant reward. Veterans will scoff at it, but it isn't aimed at them.

1250 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain a bound +2 tome of your choice, plus you unlock elite difficulty on all quests on your present character.

+2 tomes aren't as special as they used to be, so no biggie about making one easily available. Unlocking Elite on all quests makes hitting 1750 less of a grind and more enjoyable as you can leap straight into the semi-challenging version of a quest without having to grind normal and hard or beg for an opener.

2250 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain an additional feat of your choice, taken from the general list (i.e. the same list you could pick from if you had just leveled up).

An extra feat is a significant reward for a significant effort, but nothing gamebreaking.

2700 - Turn in to Nyx. Bound +3 tome of your choice, plus you unlock elite difficulty on all quests on all characters you currently have or roll in future on the current server.

A +3 tome is a special reward, and so it's not easy to get. Global Elite unlock was someone else's suggestion, but makes a lot of sense - people who have 32 point twinked toons can kinda wreck a group on a newbie, this reduces the number of such twinked toons that will join in (say) Delara's Normal groups at level 6-7 and ruin a new player's first experience of that quest chain by running through it faster than a cat on fire.



There's my suggestions. Fire away with yours...

[Halpo]

I want nothing else for favor your suggestions would just be over powered more. Its bad enough these toons are way over powered compared to PNP I see no sense adding more over powered additions such as additional feats or additional guaranteed tomes. Besides if you want more feats pick a class that has them.

[Turial]

750 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain a bound +1 tome of your choice, plus you unlock Aasimar and Tiefling as two additional playable races. Both are incompatible with 32 point builds (just as Drow currently are).

I think 750 is a reasonable number here as first-time players will tend to hit this by about the time they first hit level 12, so it's available with less grind than the 1750 milestone, which tends to come well after cap. Also, a +1 tome is something newer players will appreciate, as it is a significant reward. Veterans will scoff at it, but it isn't aimed at them.

1250 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain a bound +2 tome of your choice, plus you unlock elite difficulty on all quests on your present character.

+2 tomes aren't as special as they used to be, so no biggie about making one easily available. Unlocking Elite on all quests makes hitting 1750 less of a grind and more enjoyable as you can leap straight into the semi-challenging version of a quest without having to grind normal and hard or beg for an opener.

2250 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain an additional feat of your choice, taken from the general list (i.e. the same list you could pick from if you had just leveled up).

An extra feat is a significant reward for a significant effort, but nothing gamebreaking.

2700 - Turn in to Nyx. Bound +3 tome of your choice, plus you unlock elite difficulty on all quests on all characters you currently have or roll in future on the current server.

A +3 tome is a special reward, and so it's not easy to get. Global Elite unlock was someone else's suggestion, but makes a lot of sense - people who have 32 point twinked toons can kinda wreck a group on a newbie, this reduces the number of such twinked toons that will join in (say) Delara's Normal groups at level 6-7 and ruin a new player's first experience of that quest chain by running through it faster than a cat on fire.



There's my suggestions. Fire away with yours...

750 seems about right for the reward, though maybe split the two races where you get a choice of one at 750 and then the other when you hit 1500 favor (two nice races at the same time plus a tome of your choice seems a little much which is why I suggest the choice of the race and splitting them).

1250 I would have this unlock hard for all quests rather then elite. Save full elite unlocking for a higher favor level. Opening hard also would make the 1750 favor a little easier without making it a cake walk.

2250 Not sure on allowing a choice of general feats...maybe a static feat choice (along the lines of draconic toughness from the giant hold favor) one choice boosts melee, one boosts casters, and one boosts ranged character types.

2700 Seems right for this level of favor and where I would give players access to elite content. (I wouldnt do the global flag simply because the favor rewards are something I think develops the character that you are making and the journey to that reward is more important)

The question then becomes what to have for the other factions?

[VonBek]

I'd like to see something about the 1000 favor point. A bound +1 tome wouldn't hurt.

Perhaps a new favor trick. An NPC gives you a magic widget. Cram the widget and your favorite armor/item/weapon into a device and get that item bound and upgraded one "plus" so it can stay useful for another level.

Something useful for inventory, like a double capacity quiver, scroll case, etc...

Relatively minor perks along those lines work better (at least for me).

[Lcdr_Swizzle]

I would also like to see a small change in the adventure areas, in that everytime you complete something (rares, explores, slayer total) you get some favor points for the house in question, or free agents, or argonossen or whomever.

So you can only get a few points, but this might motivate some people to grind there.

[JacknCoke]

I think the favor reward for 1750 should be a coupon for a bound +5 power 5 weapon you can only use on Tuesdays at 4am est on leap years if you don't have a single caped toon on your account. That way its fair and not out of balance.

[oogly54]

More bank space.
More backpack space
Lower cost of goods (pots, scrolls, wands, tec.), you are increasing yuor reputation right?
Faster Time Warp
More teleports
higher level semi-permanant buffs. (greater hero comes to mind)
Mounts!

All I can think of right now, will add more later.

[redoubt]

750 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain a bound +1 tome of your choice, plus you unlock Aasimar and Tiefling as two additional playable races. Both are incompatible with 32 point builds (just as Drow currently are).

I think 750 is a reasonable number here as first-time players will tend to hit this by about the time they first hit level 12, so it's available with less grind than the 1750 milestone, which tends to come well after cap. Also, a +1 tome is something newer players will appreciate, as it is a significant reward. Veterans will scoff at it, but it isn't aimed at them.

1250 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain a bound +2 tome of your choice, plus you unlock elite difficulty on all quests on your present character.

+2 tomes aren't as special as they used to be, so no biggie about making one easily available. Unlocking Elite on all quests makes hitting 1750 less of a grind and more enjoyable as you can leap straight into the semi-challenging version of a quest without having to grind normal and hard or beg for an opener.


I don't like the idea of unlocking elite on quests you have never run on any character. The idea I proposed before was based on an unlock a couple levels below what you had to be to get the favor. For example, when the 1750 favor came out you had to do almost everything on elite to get it. I think it was the desert and the cap was still 10. The idea would be to open all quests to elite up to level 8. (If the cap was 12, then to level 10.) Most likely the quest you did not have on elite would be in the last two levels as they were the hardest for the cap at the time.

You could put in multiple levels of this or just do one at the cap.

2250 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain an additional feat of your choice, taken from the general list (i.e. the same list you could pick from if you had just leveled up).

An extra feat is a significant reward for a significant effort, but nothing gamebreaking.

2700 - Turn in to Nyx. Bound +3 tome of your choice, plus you unlock elite difficulty on all quests on all characters you currently have or roll in future on the current server.

A +3 tome is a special reward, and so it's not easy to get. Global Elite unlock was someone else's suggestion, but makes a lot of sense - people who have 32 point twinked toons can kinda wreck a group on a newbie, this reduces the number of such twinked toons that will join in (say) Delara's Normal groups at level 6-7 and ruin a new player's first experience of that quest chain by running through it faster than a cat on fire.



There's my suggestions. Fire away with yours...

[Borror0]

1250 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain a bound +2 tome of your choice, plus you unlock elite difficulty on all quests on your present character.

I'd move the open on Elite to 1750, you can reach 1250 without even trying. I wouldn't have any problem putting the 32 build reward lower than 1750 though.

2250 - Turn in to Nyx. Gain an additional feat of your choice, taken from the general list (i.e. the same list you could pick from if you had just leveled up).

Too powerful, and do you have any idea onm how it would affect character building?!

2700 - Turn in to Nyx. Bound +3 tome of your choice, plus you unlock elite difficulty on all quests on all characters you currently have or roll in future on the current server.

A +3 tome is a special reward, and so it's not easy to get. Global Elite unlock was someone else's suggestion, but makes a lot of sense

Makes a lot of sense, cannot say I disagree.