A new use for Knock

[dameron]

Since it's mostly useless how about having it smash all the breakable objects in like a 50' radius?

[kaelis]

Knock isn't useless.
Many solo loot runs lower level quests my sorc can knock it, I believe I'm only a few poitns short of the Desecrated temple of vol optional elite. The shroud levers to eliminate the parties need for a rogue, or rogue splash for part 3 is a very useful application as well. Many pug groups ask if i carry knock for that reason.

[dameron]

Knock isn't useless.

Thus the qualifier in "mostly useless".

[Gadget2775]

Or we could have the game replace all those mostly useless Rogues with a clicky that breaks everything in a 50' radius! ...Something like a shoulder mounted Rogue launcher....

[Gorbadoc]

That would be great. No worries if you get hit trying to get the Cabal chest; just try again. And you can find a path through Shan To Kor with trial-and-error. And all those sepulchral dungeons where gates slam shut behind you? Lob a rogue into the next room to see if it's safe! I tell ya, these disposable rogues sound like the new barbarian; finding traps with their faces.

[Gratch]

Knock isn't useless.
I believe I'm only a few poitns short of the Desecrated temple of vol optional elite.

DToV is a DC 50 on all difficulties (per my unlocking skill needing a 20 with a +30 last week - only had 1 rogue level - party wanted to do it on all difficulties - was surprised it didn't scale up).

Do you have +30 to knock?

[Lorien_the_First_One]

DToV is a DC 50 on all difficulties (per my unlocking skill needing a 20 with a +30 last week - only had 1 rogue level - party wanted to do it on all difficulties - was surprised it didn't scale up).

Do you have +30 to knock?

Nope, but they really should change knock to work without a roll on EVERY lock, you know, just like its supposed to according to D&D rules.

[sda3]

Knock is hardly useless. Ive opened the door in vol with knock, the doors throughout gianthold. I believe of the top of my head when buffed my wiz has a +34 to knock. Yes it takes a good roll, but I'll get it.

[ahpook]

I would rather that they just worked on making knock more useful without making rogues Open Lock obsolete. Inventing a new use for knock seems wrong.

[Uska]

thumbs way down on this idea

[Kargon]

That would be great. No worries if you get hit trying to get the Cabal chest; just try again. And you can find a path through Shan To Kor with trial-and-error. And all those sepulchral dungeons where gates slam shut behind you? Lob a rogue into the next room to see if it's safe! I tell ya, these disposable rogues sound like the new barbarian; finding traps with their faces.

Down with Rogue Launchermers! That Kargon job!

Though kargon would be partimial to Halflamaling Bard launchermers...

[JacknCoke]

They need to get rid of Knock and replace it with Ding Dong Ditch.

[Desteria]

DToV is a DC 50 on all difficulties (per my unlocking skill needing a 20 with a +30 last week - only had 1 rogue level - party wanted to do it on all difficulties - was surprised it didn't scale up).

Do you have +30 to knock?

level 16
38 ch +14
=+30 knock hey nifty i can do it

curious where the wiz got the other 4 from.

[Lithic]

level 16
38 ch +14
=+30 knock hey nifty i can do it

curious where the wiz got the other 4 from.

I would guess 1 level of rogue

[Desteria]

does knock add ranks in OL you have to the roll ? ohh interestig if it does...

of coure knock shoudl have no roll at all it should just work on up to 3 locks per casting, incase a door has mutiple locks you might have to cast more then once, at least in PnP thast how it works.

[issiana]

Down with Rogue Launchermers! That Kargon job!

Though kargon would be partimial to Halflamaling Bard launchermers...

why only bards? if its halfling then launch it. Best use for halflings i've heard of in a while