Help me pick my level 15 feat..

[Brummbar]

Hi all...


I wanted a little guidance on my last feat.

I currently have a 'enchantment' Sorc, tho I did NOT take 'Enchantment Focus' as a feat. Haven't needed it.

Level 12 Sorc.

30 CHR

I took: In Order..

Mental Toughness
Empower
Spell Penetration
Great Spell Penetration

I mainly cast the following spells...

Charm Monster
Suggestion
Mind Fog
FIre Wall
Fireball

I have PK, and use it situationally. It works really well when I do fling it around tho using an 'Illusion' focus item.


I am trying to figure what would be my best bet moving forward...

I have several in mind.

1. Enchanment Focus
2. Heighten
3. Improved Mental Toughness ( can never have to many SP)
4. Necromancy Focus ( for FOD, and respecting a few lower level spells towards a Necro Focus).

But for the most part, I don't plan on losing Glitter dust, Charm Monster, Suggestion or Mind Fog ( all Will Save spells )
I tend to really take the heat off the Tanks by elimination most low Will save mobs , the heavy hitter. I tell my parties to focus on the Casters, I'll get the mob tanks on our side.

I tend to use Fire ALOT in undead situations...

Just trying to figure out the next best ( last! ) feat until 18th level... so at 15, what would you recommend and why.


Thanks

[boldarblood]

Hi all...


I wanted a little guidance on my last feat.

I currently have a 'enchantment' Sorc, tho I did NOT take 'Enchantment Focus' as a feat. Haven't needed it.

Level 12 Sorc.

30 CHR

I took: In Order..

Mental Toughness
Empower
Spell Penetration
Great Spell Penetration

I mainly cast the following spells...

Charm Monster
Suggestion
Mind Fog
FIre Wall
Fireball

I have PK, and use it situationally. It works really well when I do fling it around tho using an 'Illusion' focus item.


I am trying to figure what would be my best bet moving forward...

I have several in mind.

1. Enchanment Focus
2. Heighten
3. Improved Mental Toughness ( can never have to many SP)
4. Necromancy Focus ( for FOD, and respecting a few lower level spells towards a Necro Focus).

But for the most part, I don't plan on losing Glitter dust, Charm Monster, Suggestion or Mind Fog ( all Will Save spells )
I tend to really take the heat off the Tanks by elimination most low Will save mobs , the heavy hitter. I tell my parties to focus on the Casters, I'll get the mob tanks on our side.

I tend to use Fire ALOT in undead situations...

Just trying to figure out the next best ( last! ) feat until 18th level... so at 15, what would you recommend and why.


Thanks

Get rid of Mental Toughness. You do not need it as a Sorc, useful at lower levels, but at high levels you have more than enough spell points.

In no particular order, empower, maximize, extend, spell penetration, greater spell penetration and then either heighten or force of personality.

[Osharan_Tregarth]

Umm... Are you getting suggestions for what feat to pick up at level 12? Because if you are already level 12, there should be another feat in there. Maybe extend? And that's why you didn't have it listed as a possibility?

I'd also say ditch the mental toughness.

For me, I'd go with heighten, force of personality, and extend.

But heighten being more important, if you just can't bear to ditch your mental toughness.

Followed by extend(for me, mainly for the bonus to haste, firewall, etc.) Not such a big deal with your buffs, but it adds on a lot of flexibility to your crowd control/damage over time spells if you can extend them.

If you're not worried about having a better will save, then maximize would be a decent choice. Gives you a nice bump to your dps for those times when you really, really want to kill something.

[Brummbar]

Yeah, I drew a blank as to what my other feat was. I know I 'do not' have extend, maximize, heighten or and spell focus feats...


I very well may have already taken Improved Mental toughness....

I am level 12, have 30 CRH and when I hold my Magi Item I have 1480 SP.

If you know how to easily calculate SP, maybe you can deduce if I already have IMT.

Anyhow.. I know i hear often Sorc say you'll have enough SP without Mental Toughness, and Energy of the Dragon Blood AP line, but really... I think I am at a rather comfortable level with 1480 SP.. less and I would feel hampered...

I will never, never grind for a Green Steel Arch-Magi item ... so I'm think the best I'll have to work with is a Magi item (+200 sp for me.) I may be lucky and pull a Wiz V or VI item.. but I won't count on that..


Still looking for advice on my next feat.

Currently level 12, took Greater Spell Penetration at 12, and Spell Penetration before that... ( 9?)...

Thanks in advance.

[boldarblood]

I still say you go with the feats I recommended above.

[Merkinsal]

Heighten will do more to increase the dc of your spells than anything else. You have to overcome will saves with those enchantment spells to land and should start noticing that soon if not already. Also, you will also have to beat spell penetration and should max that out with feats, which you did, and the three? enhancements.

Your strategy regarding casters and fighters is interesting. I usually go after the casters first myself and am a cleric or wizards worst nightmare lol. Of course with your enchantment school of spells and their will saves I guess that makes sense you would go after fighters. Hmmm, I use fortitude spells on the casters. My perspective may be clouded by the fact my first time in Von those casters owned me and took me right out of the battle and payback as they say..... Anyway, that might be something for you to consider. You will want to hit those casters first in some of the higher content and I would recommend you have a gift for them.

[Desteria]

GET Highten, you want to use spells liek gliterdust as per your post and it;s levle 2 highten will make it level 8 eventaly or +6 to it;s DC, many of the good enchantment spells Hypnotism for eg are low level and ge thuge benifit from it.

As for other feats and dropign the MT/IMT i droped mine but thatis persoanly choice, get highten at 15 or swap it in now and get the MT you droped fro it back at 15, you can decied later if you want any of the other feats suggested


As a note to get a tier 2 shroud item does not take the crazzy grinding it's getitng the fully upgraded tier 3's that take the work, getitng to tier 2 would let you get a Wiz6 with the +50 bonus and would only take doign the shroud every so often.