So, when is the release date?

[464]

I have a monk build that is at 2ftr/1clr until the release. I have 89,999xp and am currently capped. How much longer til I can play this toon again?

[Austinb1235]

How do you have a monk if it hasnt came out yet?

[464]

I multi-class everything. I heard what's needed for monks stats, did them up on a Drow, and now am waiting to level as a monk the rest of the way. I have a high dex, moderate str and good wisdom. Supposedly those are the stats needed for monks. I have dual weapons, weapon finesse, dodge and two weapon defense. She's true neutral, and wearing a mobile robe of stability and has black widow bracers. She has a 23ac. Anyways, she's all set from what I've heard... just need to get the show on the road!

[Kraldor]

.............She's true neutral............

Monks must be lawful-

[464]

Wow... they changed it then. How are they going to survive not wearing armor and being lawful... or is that wrong also? Are they just going to be a fighter with the ability to punch? and if so, why do they need wisdom?

[Eelpout]

Monks must be lawful-

I know it is not supposed to be, but that is darn funny!!

[BGP]

I thought Monks had to be Lawful in PnP? sorry, been a long time.

[464]

No other game I've played that has monks have them as any other alignment than true neutral. But then again this is DDO... it doesn't have to make sense, just has to sorta run on the servers.

[jmonty]

Monks must be lawful-

LOL

[BGP]

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/monk.htm

[Eelpout]

It is unfortunate that you already put the work into the character. This game is a bit trickier than most other MMO's because of the fact it is taking from rule sets that have been around for decades. Not everything is translated over as it should/could be, but many things like alignments, feats, and neccessary starting stats typically do. It makes for a bit higher learning curve when rolling up a new character, but I would definately do some research for future builds if starting before the class is implemented.

Sorry about laughing as you put a fair amount of work into the character. Just the way the story unfolded gave me a chuckle.

[464]

Actually, this is just the last blow. I have put up with bad programming, poor servers, glitches, bugs, viruses and just plain stupid people... but this may be the last thing that finally ends me playing the game. A lawful monk is a dead monk... especially since you lose your abilities when you use armor. Basically no ac means death as you level. But then again, this is DDO... and as for the rules, I believe 1.1 or there abouts had monks as true neutral. But it does make it necessary to have 3 levels of paladin and at least one level of cleric to keep the weak monk class from doing too much damage to itself.

[464]

As for being lawful: Like a member of any other class, a monk may be a multiclass character, but multiclass monks face a special restriction. A monk who gains a new class or (if already multiclass) raises another class by a level may never again raise her monk level, though she retains all her monk abilities.

So, you can have other classes with the monk, but not lvl in them after taking your first monk level.... do you think this will work in DDO?

[Spartus]

The Paladin has the same restriction in the PnP rules, and it was not implemented in DDO. I highly doubt that this restriction will be placed on Monks in DDO.

[BGP]

I don't know about that. I think there was some sort of item like that for the pally also but never saw it come into play.

As for the lawful requirement, that was in AD&D (circa 1988). Sorry to hear about your dissatisfaction. I do disagree about your thoughts on the AC possibility of the monk class though. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

You also referenced a virus.... I've never seen one from this game,

[Dylos_Moon]

Actually, this is just the last blow. I have put up with bad programming, poor servers, glitches, bugs, viruses and just plain stupid people... but this may be the last thing that finally ends me playing the game. A lawful monk is a dead monk... especially since you lose your abilities when you use armor. Basically no ac means death as you level. But then again, this is DDO... and as for the rules, I believe 1.1 or there abouts had monks as true neutral. But it does make it necessary to have 3 levels of paladin and at least one level of cleric to keep the weak monk class from doing too much damage to itself.

Monks gain an AC bonus equal to their Wisdom bonus as long as they are unarmored, and using monk weapons. Additionally, every 5 levels the monk gets +1 AC.

So no, a lawful monk is not a dead monk.

[k1dwizard]

Or, rather back on subject


So, umm I would hate to be the proverbial stick in the mud, as i do feel for the offending party, but we get of the real subject here. When is the release date? I want my memorial day weekend to be filled with monks! and a raid group, my main is getting lonely being picked on by the pit fiend. I know fat chance for a surprise release this Thursday, but come on like you haven't all thought it, I'm just saying it.

[Muirtach]

Actually, this is just the last blow. I have put up with bad programming, poor servers, glitches, bugs, viruses and just plain stupid people... but this may be the last thing that finally ends me playing the game. A lawful monk is a dead monk... especially since you lose your abilities when you use armor. Basically no ac means death as you level. But then again, this is DDO... and as for the rules, I believe 1.1 or there abouts had monks as true neutral. But it does make it necessary to have 3 levels of paladin and at least one level of cleric to keep the weak monk class from doing too much damage to itself.

D&D monks have been lawful all along. Not to be contrary, but research into it would have shown you such. Kind of silly to blame Turbine for that.

That said monks gain multiple AC bonuses, your wisdom modifier as well as a level based one (+1 AC/5 levels) add up. Stability can gain you only +3 at best and that with Abbot loot. Stability also provides a deflection bonus which you also gain from any protection item. Deflection items do not stack so while handy to combine a +2 resist/protection item into one location it is not necessary by any means and if you want a tank level AC you need more. Lawful also gains you access to Chaosguards which give you a stacking Dodge bonus equal to stability.

[Kraldor]

Or, rather back on subject


So, umm I would hate to be the proverbial stick in the mud, as i do feel for the offending party, but we get of the real subject here. When is the release date? I want my memorial day weekend to be filled with monks! and a raid group, my main is getting lonely being picked on by the pit fiend. I know fat chance for a surprise release this Thursday, but come on like you haven't all thought it, I'm just saying it.

Well considering that they're going to be updating Risia soon:
(http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...67&postcount=6)
I would say at least another week from that point if not more.

[ArkoHighStar]

D&D monks have been lawful all along. Not to be contrary, but research into it would have shown you such. Kind of silly to blame Turbine for that.

That said monks gain multiple AC bonuses, your wisdom modifier as well as a level based one (+1 AC/5 levels) add up. Stability can gain you only +3 at best and that with Abbot loot. Stability also provides a deflection bonus which you also gain from any protection item. Deflection items do not stack so while handy to combine a +2 resist/protection item into one location it is not necessary by any means and if you want a tank level AC you need more. Lawful also gains you access to Chaosguards which give you a stacking Dodge bonus equal to stability.

in 1st edition monks had no alignment restriction, he unfortuantely confused monks with druids which have always and still are neutral. I suspect that he is more upset that he can't reroll because he is over the 9 char limit and deleting the char would do him no good.

The only advantage to being neutral is the ability to wear stability items which are pretty much useless after lvl 5 as shield of faith potions and heroism potions work better plus you can get protection and resisitance items that are better as of lvl 7