Diehard feat working ?

[Thame]

I have a paladin I mainly solo and decided to take the diehard feat when I took a level of fighter. Prior to getting the feat of course become incapacitated and have to roll to stabilize which didnt work alot so hence why I took diehard feat. But now since I took the feat I have never had a chance to see it work. Now since taking the feat never get to 0 to -9. I go straight from standing to DEAD every time.

First few times I thought bad luck of course but decided to do some testing on lower level quests. Let some mobs beat on me with no armor on, get hit, get close to 0hp then straight to dead each time. So you devs may wanna look into this, and before flamers start asking yes I bug reported it

[Mandinga]

Unless something has changed in the past few days it is working just fine.



Mandinga

[Zenako]

Look closely at your combat log when this happens. Many mobs WILL hit you after you drop if they have no other choice unless they have exhausted their action list already. Ie Mob is set for a three swing attack animation, drops you on the first one and then follows thru with the other two and kills you.

If you wear Adamantine armor and engage with some low powered mobs, you can really cut down the damage rate and perhaps see how that is working. Go into any quest with something like skeletons which do like a d6 of damage. d6-3 = almost nothing, but enough to take you below 0, BUT not dead, in one hit.

[StrikerDroid]

My ranger uses diehard all the time. That is if he doesn't get hit with a area attack/spell after he's incaped.

[Milolyen]

Yes it is working as it should.

Milolyen

[Yaga_Nub]

It is working.

[Dexxaan]

I wouldn´t be able to answer that question.....Barbarrus (my Ranger) has no need for it. I prefer killing whatever would put me in a position to test it.

(OK OK, Yes....it´s working)

[Warmane]

Working here too (as of last night)....

[DelScorcho]

Its working. I would note that more mobs deliver a finishing blow against an incapped player than before, but the feat is working.

[Sue_Dark]

Its working. I would note that more mobs deliver a finishing blow against an incapped player than before, but the feat is working.

I wouldnt necessarily call it a finishing blow. The previous poster's (sry, i'm too lazy to double quote) example seemed more accurate, in that it is more of a completion of their action cycle. If they get 2 attacks and the first gets you to 0 to -9 they still roll the second. I've seen multiple incidents recently where an incapped player was left alone by mobs (myself in Coal,last night, had shaman and archer sitting on my head and they stopped attacking me and went after others who were 3-4 levels below me) after incap. Die hard kicked in and regen as expected. What I dont like about it is that when u get up, you better be fast. Duck for cover, grab a pot or wand (prefer both at once myself) and pray the mobs dont get a whack in while you are recovering.

Now just cause I dont like that little bit doesnt mean it doesnt make sense or that I think it needs change. The feat is working as intended, imho. I just dont care much for standing about in a pack of unfriendlies with only 1 hp.

[fatherpirate]

I noticed the same effect (bad luck) so I don't waste a feat on it...I am on a permadeath guild and
don't waste a feat pick on it..that should say something.

[Laith]

I am on a permadeath guild and
don't waste a feat pick on it..that should say something.

it says you are expecting to always be with someone that can heal 1HP worth of damage, eating ham, or playing WF; that's what.

[rimble]

I wouldnt necessarily call it a finishing blow. The previous poster's (sry, i'm too lazy to double quote) example seemed more accurate, in that it is more of a completion of their action cycle. If they get 2 attacks and the first gets you to 0 to -9 they still roll the second.

I've had mobs incap me, stand around for a good 15 seconds, then bite my head off. Can't figure out why some do that and some don't, but I think that's what the previous poster you quoted was referring to. They most certainly are new attacks and not a continuation of something else.

[Hambo]

I wouldnt necessarily call it a finishing blow. The previous poster's (sry, i'm too lazy to double quote) example seemed more accurate, in that it is more of a completion of their action cycle. If they get 2 attacks and the first gets you to 0 to -9 they still roll the second. I've seen multiple incidents recently where an incapped player was left alone by mobs (myself in Coal,last night, had shaman and archer sitting on my head and they stopped attacking me and went after others who were 3-4 levels below me) after incap. Die hard kicked in and regen as expected. What I dont like about it is that when u get up, you better be fast. Duck for cover, grab a pot or wand (prefer both at once myself) and pray the mobs dont get a whack in while you are recovering.

Now just cause I dont like that little bit doesnt mean it doesnt make sense or that I think it needs change. The feat is working as intended, imho. I just dont care much for standing about in a pack of unfriendlies with only 1 hp.

I solo a lot with my lvl 13 rogue in Atraxia... I go incap about 9 times out of 10, and Diehard works just as advertised. A lot of the time, the wild man or hyena or whatever will incap me and then be nice and move off a small distance. I've gotten to the point where I can time that final transition from 0 to 1 HP and click on stealth before my alt is halfway up, at which point I can chug pots until I'm back to 100%, then move in for the kill.

Of course, sometimes they like to stand around ang gossip, if there is more than one (probably bragging to each other, claiming the final shot).

[Akhad_Durn]

I've had mobs incap me, stand around for a good 15 seconds, then bite my head off. Can't figure out why some do that and some don't, but I think that's what the previous poster you quoted was referring to. They most certainly are new attacks and not a continuation of something else.

Have had this happen in the desert in the undead area, go in with a part of the party and got incapped, but stablized. The undead stands over me a second, and then wanders off. The rest of the party mounts a rescue, but the undead on seeing the new threat immediately comes back to me and kills me...

Whats up with that... I was still incap (ie: should have no agro)...

[Uska]

it works if the mobs dont kill me lots of times though I go from 100 more hit points to dead as my only character with this right now doesnt have full fort yet and 330 hit points goes away quickly sometimes, but it has been a lifesaver a couple of times

[Turial]

The feat works most of the time if you happen to take enough damage to end up incapped. With mobs dealing 25+ damage it is less likely that a higher level character will end up in the magic zone then a lower level character would.

[Strakeln]

Had it work for me the first time tonight. Forgot I had it! (Ranger)

[fatherpirate]

it says you are expecting to always be with someone that can heal 1HP worth of damage, eating ham, or playing WF; that's what.

very very true :-D

in Permadeath guilds, they have a saying

Guildies don't allow guildies to solo