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    Quote Originally Posted by Strykersz View Post
    His fascinate will have a 33 dc before the d20. I'm not certain he needs a perform item.
    May I ask what the calculation for this is? I don't think I'd mind swapping in a ring (or something) just to fascinate stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gol View Post
    May I ask what the calculation for this is? I don't think I'd mind swapping in a ring (or something) just to fascinate stuff.
    it's a charisma based skill so:

    19 ranks
    11 cha mod(should be the norm if you started with 18. still achievable with 16)
    4 greater heroism
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    34 total

    that alone will give you a dc of 34 now if u had the green steel goggles that'll push you up to 40 with no item. you could also take it a step further and use like a +6 cha item with +3 perform on it for example without having to swap something in. that means your dc for a fascinate that hardly gets used in group play will be:

    44 - 53 depending on the die roll which means you'll suceed 95% of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gol View Post
    May I ask what the calculation for this is? I don't think I'd mind swapping in a ring (or something) just to fascinate stuff.
    Your builds says you end with a 26 cha so

    19 perform ranks
    +8 cha bonus to perform
    +6 greensteel item to cha skills
    -------
    33 perform + d20 = Fascinate DC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strykersz View Post
    Your builds says you end with a 26 cha so

    19 perform ranks
    +8 cha bonus to perform
    +6 greensteel item to cha skills
    -------
    33 perform + d20 = Fascinate DC
    +4 GH + 2 Luck = 39 + d20. I can live with that. I'll keep a Perform item hotbarred, but not part of regular equipment it sounds like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gol View Post
    May I ask what the calculation for this is? I don't think I'd mind swapping in a ring (or something) just to fascinate stuff.
    From the WDAs:
    The fascinate feat for bards now has a will saving throw. The DC is the bard's perform skill plus a d20.

    Like you said, at worse you equip a perform item.
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