8 runs and counting....this is ridiculous

[muffinlad]

Then your X is greater than 1000.

X is a variable, it can be anything. Statistically, if you run something an unlimited number of times, you're guaranteed to pull what you want, eventually. It was a joke.

Math Nerd alert!

Whooop, whooop, whoop.

Flee the building.

muffindunce.

[Strakeln]

I believe that the Visors only appear on the end reward list if you release the Flesh Render before completing Q5b. That may be why you haven't seen it.

Not true.

I obtained the goggles on all of my characters by soloing T-root. The *only* optional I ever stop for is to kill Whisperdoom, just because people still think it's impossible, and I like doing the impossible. Even when I'm all alone.

[Gunga]

Not true.

I obtained the goggles on all of my characters by soloing T-root. The *only* optional I ever stop for is to kill Whisperdoom, just because people still think it's impossible, and I like doing the impossible. Even when I'm all alone.

impossible.

[Emili]

No kidding ... how can you equip a staff and a scroll of raise dead at the same time???

You can't.

Cartouche is the shiznits!!! Besides the rare Titan gloves, its the best UMD item in the game, easy to get and very viable at level 16.

Aye, it has always been a useless item... I wonder who thought it up?

To the OP I am sorry to hear of your frustration and I support you whole heartedly in you posting this... It took my fighter 80 dragon runs under the old raid loot system to grab an SoS. My rogue still has yet to pull a cartouche but I do not grind it... My pard luckily got hers (actuakky 3 or 4?) prior to the loot change and when I did get seven finger gloves banked the cartouche for a while I accidentally sold the gloves though prior to mod 3 (before u could lock) and nvr looted another pair... am not sure if I want another pair as I can cartouche and buff her at 44umd and a glove slot is a pertinent prime stat spot.

[boldarblood]

Aye, it has always been a useless item... I wonder who thought it up?

To the OP I am sorry to hear of your frustration and I support you whole heartedly in you posting this... It took my fighter 80 dragon runs under the old raid loot system to grab an SoS. My rogue still has yet to pull a cartouche but I do not grind it... My pard luckily got hers (actuakky 3 or 4?) prior to the loot change and when I did get seven finger gloves banked the cartouche for a while I accidentally sold the gloves though prior to mod 3 (before u could lock) and nvr looted another pair... am not sure if I want another pair as I can cartouche and buff her at 44umd and a glove slot is a pertinent prime stat spot.

Not completely useless. Decent for a melee based (with no rogue/bard mix) for a quick +5 boost. Good for putting on equipment that you would otherwise not be able to.

[GramercyRiff]

I've never understood the rationale behind this change. It never made sense. Instead of being able to be guaranteed what you want, you get randomized poor low level loot. I suppose it's ok for those who have just started the game, but since we know those people don't exist (half joking) that's irrelevant.

That cartoon said it all.

[Aesop]

I've never understood the rationale behind this change. It never made sense. Instead of being able to be guaranteed what you want, you get randomized poor low level loot. I suppose it's ok for those who have just started the game, but since we know those people don't exist (half joking) that's irrelevant.

That cartoon said it all.

I've gotten decent stuff honestly... I'm still using the Proof Against Poison ring I got at level 3 on my wizard (until I create a NOM item anyway)... and the Featherfall Boots on another character and Blindness Ward Goggles on another... and some other stuff... there aren't a lot of great ones but if they just changed the way its divied up a little then I think people would be a lot happier. split the rewards in half 1st run give the first half as choices and make the rest random 2nd run give the 2nd group as choices with the rest random... and repeat

Aesop

[Lcdr_Swizzle]

My Dwarven fighter basically solo'd Deleras 8 times (yes, he had a lowbie or another hit the level in part 2) as a level 16 fighter to get Carnifex. He had done the quest 4 times when level appropriate before that. No cartouche ever, and Carnifex only once.

Go figure.

I like the idea of every 5th run having the complete list.
That way at most you do the quest another 5 times to get the item you want.

[issiana]

I want to get this straight. You are lvl 14 still trying to get an item that frankly, was great in the day, but now that you are lvl 14 and soo to be capped, you will find that item will soon take up space in your bank, space in-which has more value then the actual item.

Do we have moderator that have the power to close threads on the basis of just being too lame?

well lets see...... at capped lvl 16 sorc i still have the item your bagging. its in constant use.

why?

i only get what i can get in the times i can play and that dosent allow for grinding quests endlessly to get items from raids. heck i have enough troubles getting to do half the quests i want to do due to lack of groups let alone try endlessly raiding for stuff.

i'd like the old system back as it makes ppl like me have a much better gaming time loot wise, but i do understand how getting offered the same stuff over and over can be a bit boring. but then again rerunning a quest endlessly trying to get an item gets boring real quick to, lol.