Dc'ing and Out of Quest

[Ganak]

To my dear devs and awesome folks of turbine, I love the game and for better or worse I'm with you. Since launch straight, you folks mean more to me than you can realize or I can explain.

I dc'd from the shroud part 2 tonight, reappearing in the harbor. First time in 78 completions. Not a bad ratio of couse, yet it still sucks. It's hard on the other 11 people in the run.

Understanding how difficult it is to engineer such a game, I ask you place special emphasis on not allowing this to occur. Granted, easier said than done. Succeess or failure won't change anything as far as I am concerned. Awesome stuff, thanks many times over. Just a shout for what it is worth. Thx!

[Yvonne_Blacksword]

DCing and fully unbuffed...in or out of quest when logged back in...

this will cause problems later for arcane archers,holy sword casters...

[Gol]

To my dear devs and awesome folks of turbine, I love the game and for better or worse I'm with you. Since launch straight, you folks mean more to me than you can realize or I can explain.

I dc'd from the shroud part 2 tonight, reappearing in the harbor. First time in 78 completions. Not a bad ratio of couse, yet it still sucks. It's hard on the other 11 people in the run.

Understanding how difficult it is to engineer such a game, I ask you place special emphasis on not allowing this to occur. Granted, easier said than done. Succeess or failure won't change anything as far as I am concerned. Awesome stuff, thanks many times over. Just a shout for what it is worth. Thx!

By the time Harry died, we were down to 9. Lost 1 in part 4, another as we zoned into 5. Both came back in < 60 secs and booted out of the zone.

[ENGRAV0]

Hmm, I have had this occur to myself, and countless others that I have been in various quests with.

BUT----

As so many people decided to complain about some odd method of approach and success in some other quest somewhere (Is this vague enough to surpass the KK and Cubes eyes?) and thought it cheesy, this is what we end up with now.

It sucks, but, it is what was seen as a suitable fix!

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I don't doubt what you say is true Engraver but its a bad fix. Its just not fair to the individual or group.

[ENGRAV0]

That is my point, Lorien. It isn't the right fix because I believe WAY more people run the Shroud than run that other quest in question. That said, I believe there are far more innocent people getting the short end of the stick for something that might or might not have been occuring in another one.

Seems, rather than Turbine work on coding where coding is needed, they work on coding that will go universal. So, everyone complained about something a while back, Turbine implemented a server wide adjustment to fix something they felt was not within the boundaries of "FAIR" and now it has become unfair in another place, actualy, unfair in a LOT of other places. I see people losing their connections and getting sent back to Meridia a LOT because of things beyond their control.

Hopefully, Turbine and the Devs will just roll this back, and work on the next attempt. But I am not going to hold my breath to see them begin putting in fixes in individual places rather than server wide. Without a doubt, it sucks, but we are only peon players.

[Elsbet]

It sucks, but, it is what was seen as a suitable fix!

Ummm. Not just no, but ****no. It is just wrong that briefly going link dead because the power flickers throws you out of a quest, let alone a quest you can't run back to and re-enter. Exactly how is it fair that someone gets penalized because the power company can't maintain their own equipment? Or when the DDO client randomly crashes?

This not only penalizes the player, but everyone that player is grouped with.

[Aspenor]

Hmm, I have had this occur to myself, and countless others that I have been in various quests with.

BUT----

As so many people decided to complain about some odd method of approach and success in some other quest somewhere (Is this vague enough to surpass the KK and Cubes eyes?) and thought it cheesy, this is what we end up with now.

It sucks, but, it is what was seen as a suitable fix!

Not to be picky, but there were far worse things that were possible using the "tactic" of which you speak (tactic used EXTREMELY loosely) than just an odd method of approach and success.

However, I sympathize with the OP and all others that have had this occur to them in the Shroud. I have been lucky, I have always rezoned in within the Shroud. I wonder if there would be some way to tweak the code to differentiate between a user-triggered disconnection and a lapse in ISP service, or some other communication problem that would cause the feed to drop. I don't know for sure, but I hope for the sake of all those that might have this happen in the future that they could do it.

[ENGRAV0]

I agree Elsbet, I do NOT like it either, nor find it fair. Please don't think I was saying it was acceptable, only that it is what THEY (Turbine and the Devs) found to be acceptable.

[Elsbet]

Oops. sorry.

Note to self: Finish first cup of tea BEFORE attmpting anything requiring reading comprehension.

[ENGRAV0]

Well Good Morning.

[Aspenor]

Oops. sorry.

Note to self: Finish first cup of tea BEFORE attmpting anything requiring reading comprehension.

/hands Ana my other cup of coffee

Wake up!!!!

Oh, and btw, I just remembered regarding my previous post that certain holes and bugs were closed up that preclude that certain instance of questionable behavior. The devs might be able to change it back to where DC'ing never put you outside the quest if they felt it couldn't be used somewhere else.

Then again, they might figure people would do it all the time in other quests like the Abbot, Shroud, or DQ or something....just for beating the quest, nothing overly questionable.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

However, I sympathize with the OP and all others that have had this occur to them in the Shroud. I have been lucky, I have always rezoned in within the Shroud. I wonder if there would be some way to tweak the code to differentiate between a user-triggered disconnection and a lapse in ISP service, or some other communication problem that would cause the feed to drop. I don't know for sure, but I hope for the sake of all those that might have this happen in the future that they could do it.

From a technical standpoint they can tell the difference between shutting down the program and a DC, but not between an ISP based DC and me physically unplugging my computer's network cable from the wall, both would appear to be service interuptions.

the odd part is I'm not sure that it is working as intented, it might be a bug. I wish we could get an answer on that here.... If it is working as intended why do you sometimes reappear in the quest, sometimes reappear but are debuffed in the quest, and sometimes end up in the wavecrest? I so far haven't seen a pattern so I'm really thinking possible bug here...