Feature Request: Still Spell Metamagic Feat

[Gol]

Devs, is there any chance you're going to add the Still Spell Metamagic feat? Forgive me if this has already been posted. I tried doing a search on the forums, but the search engine says "still" is to common of a word so it just searches on spell which is useless. My WF wizard just might even get unretired if you could add this. It's a core feat that's been around since 3.0 at least!

[uncus2]

I'd second that request - or would it make it too easy to be a WF since you could take Adamantium armor with essentially no penalty via a still spell feat?
I know I'd love it on my cleric/mage...[no more taking off armor to buff - at least ff is verbal only ]

[Gol]

I'd second that request - or would it make it too easy to be a WF since you could take Adamantium armor with essentially no penalty via a still spell feat?

The penalty is 10 or 15 SP per spell, heh...

[fatherpirate]

I have nothing against that one, but it is powerful in the hands of a multiclass...for a pure caster it is not as big of a deal

so the question would be...how many extra points does it cost?

Smart bringing it up though...I can see Warforge casters liking that feat

[MysticTheurge]

It's beyond silly that Still Spell isn't already in the game.

[Angelus_dead]

It's beyond silly that Still Spell isn't already in the game.

Maybe the devs didn't want "standing in a firewall" to become an even better tactic than it is now.

A warforged wizard who's blocking with a Tower Shield in the middle of an extended Wall of Fire AND it's not giving him ASF on any self-repair or whatever else he needs.

[Taerdra]

Yes, please add. This would be a valuable addition for the character creation process.

[Alavatar]

I think I would end up making a WF Melee Sorcerer if Still Spell was added...

[MysticTheurge]

Maybe the devs didn't want "standing in a firewall" to become an even better tactic than it is now.

A warforged wizard who's blocking with a Tower Shield in the middle of an extended Wall of Fire AND it's not giving him ASF on any self-repair or whatever else he needs.

AND his repair spells are costing more.

I mean, they didn't leave out Maximize and Extend because they make "standing in a firewall" a better tactic. Not including Still Spell because of that one scenario is absurd.

[Angelus_dead]

Not including Still Spell because of that one scenario is absurd.

Evaluating the potential of a proposed feature by judging what it will most commonly and effectively be used for is the opposite of absurd- it is the only sane approach.

[GeneralDiomedes]

Tower shield is only 2 more DR than a heavy mithral, no? My sorc does fine blocking with the heavy mithral variety anyhow. Add lesser arcane sigil docent for 0% ASF.

[fatherpirate]

Tower shield is only 2 more DR than a heavy mithral, no? My sorc does fine blocking with the mithral variety anyhow. Add lesser arcane sigil docent for 0% ASF.

Sorc using a tower shield to be a blocker.....folks wonder why I think Fighter is a dead class under DDO rules

[ChildrenofBodom]

What exactly does this feat do? I read it in the d20srd but I don't really understand.

[gpk]

Tower shield is only 2 more DR than a heavy mithral, no? My sorc does fine blocking with the heavy mithral variety anyhow. Add lesser arcane sigil docent for 0% ASF.

Madstone shield and DP clicky while self-repairing...

[Angelus_dead]

What exactly does this feat do? I read it in the d20srd but I don't really understand.

If added to DDO it would allow you to cast arcane spells without the failure percentage from armor, shields, or engulfment in slime. (At a cost of more spellpoints, like any metamagic. +10 sp going by the established pattern)

Adding it isn't a horrible idea, but I can see why Turbine would be reluctant. The fact is that DDO wizards/sorcs have so little need for AC right now that they'd find it hard to justify more SP on each spell just so they can walk around in armor.

One creative approach to adding Still Spell to DDO would be to modify it so you only paid the extra spellpoint cost if you actually needed it. That is, you'd roll the ASF failure check first, and pay the +10 sp only if it failed. But that would probably be too strong, so a compromise could be found.

[Gol]

What exactly does this feat do? I read it in the d20srd but I don't really understand.

Angelus' answer is correct, but the practicality of it is that a lot of WF wizards would run around with Adamantine body and a Tower Shield as a result, never turning it off. My WF should be able to hit low 50s AC if I could do this.

[fatherpirate]

This would be...pretty much..a WF only feat.
Any regular Wiz has no need for armor..they AC is Beefy with thier usual magic defensive spells

Now a WF,wiz would want it cuz their heavy armor comes with DR... and that is prob why Turbine has not used it.

It would only really benefit 1 race, or at least would benefit them more than the rest.

[Spectralist]

It would only really benefit 1 race, or at least would benefit them more than the rest.

For most current builds maybe. But it would open up opportunities in new builds that would benefit all races.

And to those that think it would be overpowered, it wouldn't. You can already obtain AC equal to what would be possible without any extra SP cost. It just takes a few equipment slots and some rare gear and or warforged/elf/drow ASF reduction enhancements. All still spell would do is allow you to spend extra SP & a feat in order to save yourself build points in dex, rare/expensive gear like the titan gloves, high +mithral and or twilight armors and shields, item slots, and a few AP. A decent trade if you are into it, but i'd rather keep my spell's cost down for most builds.

[fatherpirate]

True true, I have nothing personal against that feat..kinda like it in fact..might make for some new fun builds.

just suggestion what Turbine might be thinking...just a guess

Peace all

[Shadowblizmasta]

This would also benefit fleshy fighter/mages that want to use +5 adamantine/mithral plate and addy/mithril tower shields. Would give them a lot of armor. If this feat was implemented that would be a fun build to try.