OMGZ A Healinz Zorc!!

[Jakarr]

Excuss the Title please I am a bit excited tonight, but I grped up with a sorc the other night in Deleras I was on my cleric and I noticed I was getting dv'ed not just a couple but alot of em looked at my grp for icons, was pretty **** sure There were no other cleric but sure enough I saw the lvl 5 sorc/1 cleric and it clicked even though the dvs only were hitting for 12-20 he had i think about 10 or 12 of em so a easy 200+ sp gain was nifty. So got to thinking a 15/or 14 sorc Human or Drow with a lvl/or 2 of cleric now the point of the build would be, hell to heal and have a 100% for scrolls and res so ya really dont need that umd. Now you say *** is he gonna do with a cure light heal spell, well back in the day for u new guys Pot items+dev items+empowerment Heal used to be the **** if I remember I was able to drop a 15 sp pnt heal for 50+ I think. Now Ya say well yer dc will suck, well I always play a wf so used to the 14-16cha builds =) and they do just fine. Or yer one of the few the proud WF only Peps(I am one as well, but on a human kick atm) and ya say well just build a wf sorc and heal yerself, well on my wf sorc I uselly dont get damaged much and my repair spells(non-wf)dont do much to fleshlings, So with my Huge Sp Pool, In a time of need, I throw some cc and help the Cleric out with a few heals or I help out by telling the cleric let me do the after combat healing(sence he should have a better heal then me during combat). So what ya guys think, Looks to me like a very usefull party member to have.

[Twerpp]

Dont Sorcs lose the entire highest level of spells for multiclassing 1 level?

[Uska]

Dont Sorcs lose the entire highest level of spells for multiclassing 1 level?

yes they do but you could take 2 levels of something and still reach 9th level scrolls at level 20 and right now since level 8 spells are nothing special your arent losing much.

[Jakarr]

The lvl 8 spells arn't anything special but ya sure I wouldn't have a 100% use on the scrolls or is that just with wands?
also starting stats 8-8-16-10-8-18
At lower lvls with a wisdom buff I'd beable to use my lvl 1 spells
Feats
1-Force of Person
1-Quicken(cuz I love it)
3-Empower Heal
6-Max
9-Empower
12-Open
15-Open

This will be my First Char, Arcane or Divine that has a starting str less then 14 btw =) So this 8 str hurts, but Keep telling myself I am more then just a nuker I can also help with healing

[Solmage]

A few things:

- Only wands would work 100%. Without UMD you'd have an abysmally low chance to use those scrolls (caster level check, forgot the exact formula, but good luck spending 40 heal scrolls to get one off sort of deal with only 1 level)

- You loose out on level 8 spells. CURRENT level 8 spells kind of suck, but the simple addition of superior potency VIII already makes 1, possibly up to 3 of them useful. New spells are bound to come - it's not the first time we've gotten a new level with 'only crappy spells' and without potency for them to make them useful.

- There is no guarantee the next cap will be as high as level 20. In fact, previous history, and the fact they have to work on more enhancements and such make a strong case against it. So when the REALLY cool level 9 spells (wail of the banshee (mass finger of death), time stop, etc) arrive, there's a good chance you'll need to wait another 6 months to a year for the NEXT cap increase, so that you can choose ONE lvl 9 spell, while everyone else will have 2, and has been enjoying one all that time.

In the end, something not being optimal doesn't mean you shouldn't play it, provided you AND the people who play with you, have fun. Just elaborating a bit on the real ramifications of multiclassing a sorc.

[Jakarr]

Well on the point of Multi classing a sorc I never really liked lvl 9 arcane spells anyways(not a real fan of insta-death spells takes the fun out of throwing a fireball or lightning bolt). Not saying that instant death spells dont have there use's but to me it takes the fun and challange out of being a arcane caster...boom yer dead <shrug> Just my play style so the lvl 8-9 spells really doesn't matter much to me. This class reminds me of my old favorite BG class Cleric/Mage =)

[Uska]

You wont have a 100% to use heal or rez scrolls with only 1 or 2 levels of cleric you will still need umd those scrolls are base on class level not character level