A fix for gold farming spammers that works

[fatherpirate]

Here is the fix...hope a developers sees this.
offer a filter to [incoming tells]

a player should be able to set incoming allowable tells

Example
Guildies-----yes
Friends-----yes
Party-------no
general-----no
ect..

then you can filter out the spammers...or you can let them spam you...your choice

[Lcdr_Swizzle]

Best way I've seen yet.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Here is the fix...hope a developers sees this.
offer a filter to [incoming tells]

a player should be able to set incoming allowable tells

Example
Guildies-----yes
Friends-----yes
Party-------no
general-----no
ect..

then you can filter out the spammers...or you can let them spam you...your choice

Good suggestion, except make them channels, not filters. That way I can set party window to get party tells, guild window for guild tells, general chat for everything else, etc. That would help managing all tells in quest, not just plat farmers.

[fatherpirate]

Good suggestion, except make them channels, not filters. That way I can set party window to get party tells, guild window for guild tells, general chat for everything else, etc. That would help managing all tells in quest, not just plat farmers.

Each channel should have it own filter, so you can custom set any channel the way ya like.
good point though. :-D

[Vance71975]

Here is the fix...hope a developers sees this.
offer a filter to [incoming tells]

a player should be able to set incoming allowable tells

Example
Guildies-----yes
Friends-----yes
Party-------no
general-----no
ect..

then you can filter out the spammers...or you can let them spam you...your choice

Great idea but i have one even better than that!!!This one may get me flamed but it would get rid of the spammers FOR GOOD!

Turbine Should Put a Link up on the Forums to a Site that they themselves Create and SELL PLAT themselves. I don't personally buy Plat but the idea doesn't offend me,this would (A) Generate more income for Turbine which could translate into a Lower Monthly cost to play(B) If Turbine Sells the Plat at 1/4 of what the plat farmers Do they would put them out of business Which means no more SPAMMERS!(C) who cares if some rich guy buys plat online because he cant spent 8+hours per day playing, it doesn't effect me the AH prices are crazy as is not like they can get much worse.Just a thought.

[fatherpirate]

I think that would cause legal problems in the US.

Here would be the problem...if you can buy gold (legally) in a game,,,does it have value?
If it does, then the IRS can tax it....even worse, then the gold you make in game has
real value, and that can be taxed.

It is a pandoras box

and yes, it sounds stupid....but not to the IRS, they have been wanting to tax in game item since
Ultima Online...no lie.

[Odium]

How about just put a cap on number of tells you can send in an hour. If the amount is over a certain amount it flags them. Someone then reviews and if your name is say something like adidjdldk or didkdfgjd then they caught their own phish. You could probably put a level thing in there too, because the majority of the tells come from lvl 1 ppl that get created using the 10 day free trial thing.

[Odium]

I think that would cause legal problems in the US.

Here would be the problem...if you can buy gold (legally) in a game,,,does it have value?
If it does, then the IRS can tax it....even worse, then the gold you make in game has
real value, and that can be taxed.

It is a pandoras box

and yes, it sounds stupid....but not to the IRS, they have been wanting to tax in game item since
Ultima Online...no lie.

And for this i can see where they are comming from but i think most games have a "Property inside xxxxxx is sole property of (named game owner)" So since the property never technically changes ownership, its hard to tax. It can be said we are just "renting" the items since, in our case Turbine has the right to take it away from us if we violate the terms of service.

[Sambvca]

Just make selling and buying play illegal and a bannable offense. Then give the players a way to ignore tells from them. Maybe give us a way to report the sellers...

[Vance71975]

And for this i can see where they are comming from but i think most games have a "Property inside xxxxxx is sole property of (named game owner)" So since the property never technically changes ownership, its hard to tax. It can be said we are just "renting" the items since, in our case Turbine has the right to take it away from us if we violate the terms of service.

Exactly how they would get around it being taxable.

[aurus33]

Here is the fix...hope a developers sees this.
offer a filter to [incoming tells]

a player should be able to set incoming allowable tells

Example
Guildies-----yes
Friends-----yes
Party-------no
general-----no
ect..

then you can filter out the spammers...or you can let them spam you...your choice

I like this, and I'll add the choice where in you'll need authorization to add somebody/be added to your friend list too.

[FoxOne]

it's a suggeston i haven't seen yet in the other 25671 threads.All jokes aside,nothing's going to get done,the same as that super long thread with tolero,2 weeks later,it's forgotten.Is it may 20th yet?

[Naso24]

The only problem I see with this is it will encourage a more closed off community. It would create a situation where in order to avoid the spam, players remove themselves.

You would miss out on legit random tells like, "Nice shield. Where did you get that?" "Hey Killsalotofyou, how are things going? This is Morfgarg. I'm at a friends right now (different character)." "Can you help me?" "Is your guild recruiting?" "Hey Morfgarg, I just created a new Monk character."

Once a channel or filter becomes the default spam filter, it will be turned on or will be out of the way"

There are a lot of other sugestions out there that would provide the desired result of eliminating spam, without forcing anti-social behavior as the fix.

Here is a solution I posted in the SPAMMERWRATH thread:

My solution - if a trial account gets more than 15 squelches from tells to paid accounts, the account can send messages but they don't go anywhere. The plat sellers could be sending tells to nobody, wasting their time. Sure, they could check on another account to see if their message is getting through, but it would slow down the process. Also, it would force them to create a new account to get maybe 30 more tells out.

There are a lot of other viable options out there. Most of the problems exist with trial accounts. Most don't want a solution that ignores legitimate new players or drives the community into isolation.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

...implement a regular expression filter!

Garth

[Vance71975]

Their are only 2 ways that will truly End Plat Spamming.

1) Turbine Sells the plat themselves and sells it far cheaper than any farmer can after all they can just make more when they need it.

2)Every time someone is reported for Plat Spamming, the message is recorded and Checked by a Senior GM,Once Proven that it is in fact a Plat Seller Spam Message, the IP address of the Offender is Banned. Now before someone tries to say "that cant be done" I used to play a Text Based RPG that i was Banned from because i told an Admin exactly what i thought of him and the message that came up was "This IP Address Has been Banned for 33 years" And Sure enough when i tried to log in under my Girlfriends Name from My computer i got the Same IP Ban Message, But she could log in Fine from Home. So i know IP banning is Possible, BUT it would require FAR more Work and Man Hours than If turbine chose Option 1.

[marcosoneghett]

Here is the fix...hope a developers sees this.
offer a filter to [incoming tells]

a player should be able to set incoming allowable tells

Example
Guildies-----yes
Friends-----yes
Party-------no
general-----no
ect..

then you can filter out the spammers...or you can let them spam you...your choice

/signed

[Ki_Draken_Magus]

Here is the fix...hope a developers sees this.
offer a filter to [incoming tells]

a player should be able to set incoming allowable tells

Example
Guildies-----yes
Friends-----yes
Party-------no
general-----no
ect..

then you can filter out the spammers...or you can let them spam you...your choice

and,

trial accounts -----no

[Hambo]

Their are only 2 ways that will truly End Plat Spamming.

1) Turbine Sells the plat themselves and sells it far cheaper than any farmer can after all they can just make more when they need it.

2)Every time someone is reported for Plat Spamming, the message is recorded and Checked by a Senior GM,Once Proven that it is in fact a Plat Seller Spam Message, the IP address of the Offender is Banned. Now before someone tries to say "that cant be done" I used to play a Text Based RPG that i was Banned from because i told an Admin exactly what i thought of him and the message that came up was "This IP Address Has been Banned for 33 years" And Sure enough when i tried to log in under my Girlfriends Name from My computer i got the Same IP Ban Message, But she could log in Fine from Home. So i know IP banning is Possible, BUT it would require FAR more Work and Man Hours than If turbine chose Option 1.

1). As stated before, this only adds fuel to the fire for the IRS trying to tax "game posessions" as income. Yes, it IS being considered.

2). This is too easy to bypass, because the average or even senior GM probably isn't a certified network engineer. Also, even if this type of ban was properly implemented, after a while such filtering would impact game play because of network delays.

[Gypsy_Mouse]

Here is the fix...hope a developers sees this.
offer a filter to [incoming tells]

a player should be able to set incoming allowable tells

Example
Guildies-----yes
Friends-----yes
Party-------no
general-----no
ect..

then you can filter out the spammers...or you can let them spam you...your choice

I have been saying basically the same thing 'til I'm blue in the face.


Every major chat program out there has ways for users to determine who they want to communicate with (and who they want to know they're online as well).
It's not difficult to do.

[Wipeout]

I think that would cause legal problems in the US.

Here would be the problem...if you can buy gold (legally) in a game,,,does it have value?
If it does, then the IRS can tax it....even worse, then the gold you make in game has
real value, and that can be taxed.

It is a pandoras box

and yes, it sounds stupid....but not to the IRS, they have been wanting to tax in game item since
Ultima Online...no lie.

I have heard that its non-taxable income for individuals that gain $$ for selling MMO content in the US, so I've heard.

DDO could offer selling game content to counter the issue. Provide players a "safe" source *should* they decide to seek out buying platinum. Till that happens, or not. I do like the idea for a channel filter, good one.