bloodstone v. w/p

[CSFurious]

what is the worth of a bloodstone in comparison to that of a w/p weapon?

less, equal, more

the bloodstone is clearly valuable, but i think that w/p weapons are currently the most desired items in the game for most players

i do not think that i would trade my bloodstone for a w/p weapon, but i might be wrong

this assumes that it would take a long time to get another bloodstone & that the person hates farming the desert

[ShadowFox1978]

wow, was gonna respond......but are you serious?

[CrimsonEagle]

Well...you can farm for the bloodstone no matter how frustrating it is. A wp is pure luck.

[CSFurious]

i am serious

the bloodstone works with every single weapon vs. just the w/p weapon (assume no bloodstone)

obviously, w/p plus bloodstone is the best

i meant to say:

"Would you rather have a bloodstone or a w/p weapon equipped (no bloodstone is equipped when you are armed with the w/p)?"

[Desteria]

i am serious

the bloodstone works with every single weapon vs. just the w/p weapon (assume no bloodstone)

obviously, w/p plus bloodstone is the best

i meant to say:

"Would you rather have a bloodstone or a w/p weapon (no bloodstone)?"

w/p especaly if it was a rapier for witch i coudl turn around and trade for a bloodstone and a pile of other great stuff, I have nither and i want both dispite farming the desert till I'm rdy to puke when I zone out there if i got a w/p rapier fro eg I;d be tempted to trade it even though I really want one simply because I could get a lot of other anoying to get stuff all at once for it

[CSFurious]

i hate that desert farming, i ransacked those chests for months & never got a bloodstone

anyway, i will keep my bloodstone & if i ever find a w/p rapier, i am going to get very virtually wealthy overnight

w/p especaly if it was a rapier for witch i coudl turn around and trade for a bloodstone and a pile of other great stuff, I have nither and i want both dispite farming the desert till I'm rdy to puke when I zone out there if i got a w/p rapier fro eg I;d be tempted to trade it even though I really want one simply because I could get a lot of other anoying to get stuff all at once for it

[ShadowFox1978]

w/p is superior because if you are using them seeker damage doesn't matter, and if you can't confirm crits, well nvm that part. If you only have one w/p and you need seeker, you can just equip seeker-x of puncture, just as effective.

[CSFurious]

i think you made the case for the w/p weapon

anyway, if i ever get one, i am trading it for a lot

w/p is superior because if you are using them seeker damage doesn't matter, and if you can't confirm crits, well nvm that part. If you only have one w/p and you need seeker, you can just equip seeker-x of puncture, just as effective.

[skraus1]

Seeker makes all on crit effects more potent. On things which have a high AC or a character with a lower to hit, this is a huge plus.

Bloodstones sell quickly for around 500-700kpp on thelanis, with many people trying to get 1 million pp or more from them.

W/p rapier is worth way way more. Shortsword or dagger a decent amount more (say 2x) to about the same, depending on the person and the rr if any. A pick is worth less.

That said, I would never trade a bloodstone for a w/p because I would want both, and I HATE farming the desert. They are good for different things, and also augment each other.

[CSFurious]

i have a bloodstone on my 10 rogue/2 fighter

i use weapon finesse with power attack

i was able to buy a +5 light pick of puncturing on the ah for 15,000 plat

i wield a vorpal kukri in the main-hand & that pick in the off-hand & cause some major damage because of that bloodstone

will never trade it (unless i get lucky & acquire multiples; i use what i find & what i do not use, i trade or sell)

Seeker makes all on crit effects more potent. On things which have a high AC or a character with a lower to hit, this is a huge plus.

Bloodstones sell quickly for around 500-700kpp on thelanis, with many people trying to get 1 million pp or more from them.

W/p rapier is worth way way more. Shortsword or dagger a decent amount more (say 2x) to about the same, depending on the person and the rr if any. A pick is worth less.

That said, I would never trade a bloodstone for a w/p because I would want both, and I HATE farming the desert. They are good for different things, and also augment each other.

[Barumar]

i think you made the case for the w/p weapon

anyway, if i ever get one, i am trading it for a lot

I just want to add that IMHO it totally depends on what type of W/P weapon it is. I have a Bow for my Bard, and I like it, but would do back flips (well virtual ones anyway ) if I ever pulled a W/P Rapier for her! Best I ever got her was a Keen of Puncturing which is really nice...

So, totally agree with you about the W/P Rapier (which I of course would keep for my Bard!), or even a W/P Short Sword - which I would probably trade, but it seems to me that the W/P Rapier is one of the rarest/most sought after weapons (if not the most) in the game.

Oh, and I also spent 6 months ransacking the Desert on my Sorcerer looking for a Bloodstone for my Pally - and now that I have one I have NO plans to give/trade it away - just like the one remaining Planar Gird I have (gave 8 - 10 away to Guildies way back in the day as I was the lucky Gird guy in our Guild ) - those are keepers!

Barumar

[dior10276]

I would trade a bloodstone for a w/p any day of the week. For most melee classes the crit confirmation is not that important. With a BAB for a level 16 melee, hitting and confirming is very rarely an issue. Like it was said earlier, w/p weapons are a pure luck pull, where as u know exactly where to find the bloodstone. If u run that enough, u r gonna pull 1 at some point.

I wouldn't trade a w/p weapon for a bloodstone unless there was a lot, I mean a lot more in the trade for me.

Just fyi

[Boldrin]

i have a bloodstone on my 10 rogue/2 fighter

i use weapon finesse with power attack

i was able to buy a +5 light pick of puncturing on the ah for 15,000 plat

i wield a vorpal kukri in the main-hand & that pick in the off-hand & cause some major damage because of that bloodstone

will never trade it (unless i get lucky & acquire multiples; i use what i find & what i do not use, i trade or sell)

WOW you got ripped off you can get a puncturing rapier for less than that. Puncturing is all about con damage, not physical damage.

[CSFurious]

i was using a grievous blade

i search the ah almost everyday & there are usually only 2 pages of light picks for sale

i also look at house d broker pretty regularly

never saw a +5 light pick of puncturing recently

anyway, i do not think that 15,000 gold is a rip-off, it is a question of do you want the item now or do you want to wait 3 days & play sniper games; it was actually priced just about right & i would do it again as it is +5 & on foes in the gh it does the job quite well

WOW you got ripped off you can get a puncturing rapier for less than that. Puncturing is all about con damage, not physical damage.

[rimble]

i was able to buy a +5 light pick of puncturing on the ah for 15,000 plat

anyway, i do not think that 15,000 gold is a rip-off, it is a question of do you want the item now or do you want to wait 3 days & play sniper games; it was actually priced just about right & i would do it again as it is +5 & on foes in the gh it does the job quite well

If you payed 15k pp then I think Boldrin's post makes more sense, if you payed 15k gp maybe not so much. Regardless, not like it's much money.

[Arnya]

I have farmed for bloodstones for 18 months and have 2

I have played for 18 months and have one W/P SS

At least you know where a Bloodstone is semi-static, in two chests no less...

W/P is a lot more rare IMO

[Boldrin]

i was using a grievous blade

i search the ah almost everyday & there are usually only 2 pages of light picks for sale

i also look at house d broker pretty regularly

never saw a +5 light pick of puncturing recently

anyway, i do not think that 15,000 gold is a rip-off, it is a question of do you want the item now or do you want to wait 3 days & play sniper games; it was actually priced just about right & i would do it again as it is +5 & on foes in the gh it does the job quite well

Yeah 15K gold isn't bad, but at 10 times that it's a bit of a rip. You had originally said plat, either way as was said it's really not much money, but I'm generally on top of things like market values of items I was an economics and marketing major in college, lol

[sirgog]

Prices (based on Khyber rates, assuming +1, no RR, ML10 - add 50% to price for Adamantine, or significantly higher plusses):

Bloodstone 750k-1m PP
W/P 20 only crit melee weapons - 500-750k PP
W/P 19-20 crit weapons - 2m PP
W/P 18-20 (Rapier) - last one I heard of being traded went for 60 large ingredients (evenly split between all of them); these are priceless and pretty much the only item in the game that cannot be bought for the plat cap of 4.3 mill. There's several people offering on the forums now entire Litany tome sets plus +2 tomes in all stats plus more and they still can't get one of these puppies.

[arcticwolf666]

ROFLMFAO.....

I have a 12 rogue with a +2 W/p Hvy repeater, and a fighter with a bloodstone. Until I saw this post I never thought of equiping my rogue with the bloodstone. I will now hehe. Thanx for the info

Now, how to get out of work and get home........hmmmmm

[Lyletuba]

Now, how to get out of work and get home........hmmmmm

Solid Fog FTW!