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    I would be in favor of it matching the description if they remove the weapons reflex save/dc check on blindness. If they don't remove the reflex save, change the description to include and raise the DC check.

    I have done extensive testing with them and as of right now they have a low dc check to blind on every hit. I even designed a character around dual wielding them.

    I agree it is a lvl 8 weapon. But so is a +5 mithral fullplate and that is one of the best armours in the game. Sirroco is a named, unique, and very rare item. It should remain as effective if not better as it currently is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudimio View Post
    Haha. You didn't see any complaints (didn't remember), so they didn't happen. Your major logic flaw is talking in absolutes. Well, that and identifying people as sorcs, etc... (None of us are sorcs, we're people.)

    I complained about web and pk being too effective. They marginalized the need for casting dps spells. People playing sorcerors and wizards were being dropped from groups for casting fireball.

    You lose.

    This was easy.

    Whoa...... Ok... OK.. You Win.....


    now.. What exactly do you win?

    Yup.. You Sure showed me.
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    This item I have had for a year.
    At first it was a cool thing for my squishy bard to swing around.
    After the first nerf of the item it became mid level twinking gear...
    Min level 8? goes to the next prospective level 8 hopeful once the current wielder hits level 9

    New nerfs of an already weak item...
    Seems unnecessisary, as the blind effect rarely affects mobs much, there seems to be no increase in thier miss-to-hit ratio with the blind eye effect over their heads...and can follow me if I run away without any slow effect (unlike PC's, MOBs do not seem to move slowly after being blinded, nor do they seem to have the same miss due to blindness chance.)

    Guess it is time to put old sirrocco...in the bank...again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvonne Blacksword View Post
    This item I have had for a year.
    At first it was a cool thing for my squishy bard to swing around.
    After the first nerf of the item it became mid level twinking gear...
    Min level 8? goes to the next prospective level 8 hopeful once the current wielder hits level 9

    New nerfs of an already weak item...
    Seems unnecessisary, as the blind effect rarely affects mobs much, there seems to be no increase in thier miss-to-hit ratio with the blind eye effect over their heads...and can follow me if I run away without any slow effect (unlike PC's, MOBs do not seem to move slowly after being blinded, nor do they seem to have the same miss due to blindness chance.)

    Guess it is time to put old sirrocco...in the bank...again.
    Blinding Doesnt slow me..... You might want to file a Bug report on that.

    Put the Sword in teh ahnds of a STR based rogue and watch the Sneak attacks fly....
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    for those of you that question the effectiveness of the weapon, dual wield a sirroco with a curspewing weapon of destruction or cursespewing weapon of slow burst. Add a few levels of rogue for BS to your character and the result is CC = death. One of the reasons why I love this game so much is the creative combinations one can come up with. Make unique weapons ineffective and the result may narrow down the choices to straight dps...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Whoa...... Ok... OK.. You Win.....


    now.. What exactly do you win?

    Yup.. You Sure showed me.
    You actually won more than me. Maybe you won't end your logic-flawed posts with, "Next?".

    I just get to say, "Eudimio 1, Impaqt 0". I guess that ain't bad either.

    Happy Hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudimio View Post
    You actually won more than me. Maybe you won't end your logic-flawed posts with, "Next?".

    I just get to say, "Eudimio 1, Impaqt 0". I guess that ain't bad either.

    Happy Hunting.
    If I won more than you why are you ahead in the score?

    So I'll say Impaqt 567493, Eudimio 1



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    Impaqt,

    There were a lot of complaints about evasion working in Heavy Armor and not just by the Raging Rodian types. Enough that the lead dev at the time came onto the forum to basically say "Too bad, soo sad. Its not changing." And it changed as soon as he wasn't lead dev any more...

    The old attack bonus enhancement system got alot of complaints because it made it nearly impossible for those without it to be effective. Not only did you get full BaB to the other guy's 3/4, but you got +10 on top of that... One of the reasons rogues and clerics got their early pigeonholing was that they really couldn't hit anything by lvl 8 or so because the fighters were +12 or more ahead of them already and the bad guy ACs reflected that...

    I suppose they folks who only played fighters weren't complaining, but anyone who played 3/4 BaB classes at least part of the time sure were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vormaerin View Post
    Impaqt,

    There were a lot of complaints about evasion working in Heavy Armor and not just by the Raging Rodian types. Enough that the lead dev at the time came onto the forum to basically say "Too bad, soo sad. Its not changing." And it changed as soon as he wasn't lead dev any more...
    The Batman Builds and Evasion Palys in FUll Plate werent the ones complaining.
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