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    Default Something should be done for those spamming lfm panel

    It's against the rules,i find it really annoying to see "New guild" and "trading my 2 handed masterwork for a wounding puncturing rapier" garbage.When reported,GM's tell you it's considered under harassment yet they do nothing about it or very little to stop it.All the guilds that were created that fast imploded because well if you don't know who you invite,that happens.So i was just wondering how many of you are annoyed and what can be done to stop it seeing as what they are doing now is not enough.I make sure to report all of them,so if you were reported in the past,there is a huge chance i was the one.

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    EDIT:If every idiot out there was to put a lfm up for trade,you'd spend an hour skimming lfm's to find one actually doing a quest.
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    *blank stare*
    because ignoring them or quietly reporting them is just to much? You have to bring the same old boring drama to the boards?

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    Shouldnt be that hard to add a trading/advertising tab to the friends/who/guild/group window.
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    Default I'm with you,,, but

    I don't like seeing it myself either, but the ads are usually not up long enough for the person ever to recieve a warning I would think and I doubt turbine would want to create a trade channel as part of the UI for party creation as this would cut into the lovely 30% of the plat that gets removed from the economy with every sale on the AH..

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  5. 04-23-2008, 10:43 AM

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    Man Fox its entertaining to see the make fun of those lfms go up. Ive even done it once or twice!
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  7. 04-23-2008, 10:46 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxOne View Post
    When reported,GM's tell you it's considered under harassment yet they do nothing about it or very little to stop it.
    Actually the GM's do take action. I know someone who posted a trade in the LFM and someone complained. A GM contacted the person so he had to take it down. He then proceeded to post the trade in general chat, someone complained and a GM told him to stop that as well.

    I hate to say this, but another option would be to have a trade channel similar to WoW, then people could just spam /trade <trading blah blah blah> and those who don't want to see it could just un-check trade as an incoming chat type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halpo View Post
    get a life this is exactly what is wrong with the U.S. today. I am fine with people doing this since we have no mass broadcasting system in game. Why can't he be able to use this in that manner.
    Would you like to milk thru 100 lfms to find one doing a quest?Btw,I am not american but will take your insult with a grain of salt.

  11. 04-23-2008, 10:54 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    I just can't find the time in my day to let it bother me that much.
    /signed

    I may see an average of one when I look at the LFM screen...not enough for me to give it a second thought really.
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    Usually I /tell the person doing the LFM that there is a marketplace available for trades/sales/offers. Some of the people I've contacted this way have said they had no clue, and only one of them has said that he knew about it, and was just wanting immediate results in-game rather than waiting for the forums. It annoys me to see the LFMs up there, but I imagine if you're really irritated at it, (and I don't know if this is against the rules) you could have your friends and guilders all click request to join, and each person send a single /tell saying INVITE ME! I should think that after about the 10th+ request/tell that they would get tired of scrolling and popups. I say single /tell because anything more from an individual could be considered harrassment. It's using the LFM as it's designed to thwart misuse of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uamhas View Post
    Usually I /tell the person doing the LFM that there is a marketplace available for trades/sales/offers. Some of the people I've contacted this way have said they had no clue, and only one of them has said that he knew about it, and was just wanting immediate results in-game rather than waiting for the forums. It annoys me to see the LFMs up there, but I imagine if you're really irritated at it, (and I don't know if this is against the rules) you could have your friends and guilders all click request to join, and each person send a single /tell saying INVITE ME! I should think that after about the 10th+ request/tell that they would get tired of scrolling and popups. I say single /tell because anything more from an individual could be considered harrassment. It's using the LFM as it's designed to thwart misuse of it.
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    *wipes iced tea from monitor, then goes to get nasal lavage for removal of beverage from sinus passages* For some reason this was inordinately funny to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by binnsr View Post
    just join the group and ask 'where do i get this quest?'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uamhas View Post
    *wipes iced tea from monitor, then goes to get nasal lavage for removal of beverage from sinus passages* For some reason this was inordinately funny to me.
    Yeah, he always keeps us laughing with his stories too...

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  17. 04-23-2008, 11:22 AM

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    I'm too busy having fun , to pay any heed to the intricate wheeling and dealing going down , on the lfm thingy mabobber .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    I just can't find the time in my day to let it bother me that much.
    /signed.

    Seriously, I'm on almost every night and have never seen more than 2 or 3 at a time.

    If it got up to 20 or more at a time, I would agree, it's time for Turbine to come up with a mechanic for these people to make these posts, apart from the "real" lfm's.
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    Here is one non-quest LFM post I would fully endorse...

    LFM - Patch Q&A Testers. No Zerging!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    Here is one non-quest LFM post I would fully endorse...

    LFM - Patch Q&A Testers. No Zerging!!!

    but they would be doing quests .. just not any one in particular
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    I just can't find the time in my day to let it bother me that much.
    I feel the same way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    LFM - Patch Q&A Testers. No Zerging!!!
    Be experienced, have proper ubers...need guide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JacknCoke View Post
    *blank stare*
    because ignoring them or quietly reporting them is just to much? You have to bring the same old boring drama to the boards?
    Drama? I didnt read any drama in his post. He simply brought up that many people choose to ignore Turbines policy against this. The Drama on this old horse seems to come from folks who choose to use the LFM's for something other than its stated purpose who come to the forums and flame anyone for pointing out that they are using the LFM's improperly.

    Lets clarify a little; YOU got banned because of YOUR behavior not because of anything anybody else did. You knowingly broke a rule that Turbine has and you blame someoen else for you getting caught.

    Quote Originally Posted by Halpo
    get a life this is exactly what is wrong with the U.S. today. I am fine with people doing this since we have no mass broadcasting system in game. Why can't he be able to use this in that manner.
    Actually, what is wrong (among a million other things) with America is people who break the rules and then scream and cry that its not fair that they get caught. Dont want to get in trouble for breaking the rules? Simple, Dont break the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by JacknCoke
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    Hmmm... I was going to quote you again where you scream and called the OP a LIAR about saying that if we dont stop it we could have to look through 100 LFMs for a group because they all are filled with LFM's selling items. Weird, I had seen and quoted that statement from you but the forums went down for mainteance and when it came back, your post was gone!

    Anyway, the point I was going to reinforce was that most of the negative screaming and crying that goes on in this discussion is from people who feel that it is ok to post in LFM's even though Turbine has explicitly stated repeatedly that it is forbidden and corrective actions may be taken against those who post non LFM info in the LFM panel. Period. You can complain that its not fair all you want but people should not be posting trades and such in the LFM and if they do, they are breaking Turbines rules.

    Whether you feel this is fair or you should be able to post in the LFM's is irrelevant.

    In the distant past I was very involved in a debate/discussion/screamfest on this same old discussion. At one time, this did bother me but I have long since stopped caring about it. I cannot convince those who believe its OK to break the rules and no one should ever be able to point this out to them. This is what truly bothers me about this discussion. I really dont care (I do but I can ignore it and sleep at night) that people are using the LFM inappropraitly but what drives me to insanity is the BALLS on these same people to complain that others dont like them breaking the rules so they should just SHUT UP!!

    I think Turbine should offer a seperate chat/trade panel for this activity but I dont believe they EVER will based on the same info mentioned above; Turbine WANTS to suck plat/gold out of the game and allowing an easy way for people to trade items cuts them out of the equation. The forums trades are different for two main reasons: 1) the forum trade area has been around since the begining and the Auction was added over a year later and 2) approx 10&#37; of population reads forums so a possible majority never sees the trades on the forum.
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