In keeping with Ebberon Lore re: Clerics

[Cowdenicus]

What would people think of instead of traditional Domains for Clerics, DDO went with abilities based off of the deities of the Sovereign Host.

There are 9 gods of the Sovereign Host and as such they could choose to use all or some of these Gods and make specially tailored Domains based on them?

Just a thought.

[Missing_Minds]

What would people think of instead of traditional Domains for Clerics, DDO went with abilities based off of the deities of the Sovereign Host.

There are 9 gods of the Sovereign Host and as such they could choose to use all or some of these Gods and make specially tailored Domains based on them?

Just a thought.

I think I need more Ebberon background. 9 gods of the SH? I thought SH was considered a deity itself and not a pantheon location?

*casts summon loremaster with hopes of either a link or explanation*

[Cowdenicus]

The 9 gods are:

Arawai, God of Agriculture
Aureon, God of Law and Knowledge
Balinor, God of Beasts and the Hunt
Boldrei, God of Community and Hearth
Dol Arrah, God of Honor and Sacrifice
Dol Dorn, God of Strength at Arms
Kol Korran, God of Trade and Wealth
Olladra, God of Feast and Good Fortune
and
Onatar, God of Artifice and the Forge

Each has different Domains attached and different favored weapons. It is in fact a Pantheon of Gods (and Goddesses)

[Vorn]

Bah, Sovereign Host...My Cleric wants something related to Vol!!!

[Cowdenicus]

Bah, Sovereign Host...My Cleric wants something related to Vol!!!

Back away with your lust for the Mark of Death. There is a reason your house was destroyed and the last survivor turned to a lich.

[Missing_Minds]

Back away with your lust for the Mark of Death. There is a reason your house was destroyed and the last survivor turned to a lich.

Ok.. so if the SH is a pantheon, what is Vol, lord of blades, etc. then? Figures of history given deific status? As I don't know Ebberon, I always assumed they were the major deities of the world. Obviously, I'm lacking religious knowledge here. Not my fault that isn't a skill to roll a check on any more.

[Cowdenicus]

Ok.. so if the SH is a pantheon, what is Vol, lord of blades, etc. then? Figures of history given deific status? As I don't know Ebberon, I always assumed they were the major deities of the world. Obviously, I'm lacking religious knowledge here. Not my fault that isn't a skill to roll a check on any more.

Lady Vol is the last surviving (and I use that term loosely) member of House Vol with the Dragonmark of Death. (The 13th Dragonmark) although when she was turned into a lich, it made the mark unusable.

The Lord of Blades is a "Warforged Visionary" attempting to establish a nation in the Mournlands. There is much debate about him and some look to him as a messiah type figure, while other WF think he needs to be destroyed. There is rumor he was the last Warforged to make it out of the original Creation Forges.

Deities in Eberron are not like typical Deities in other D&D worlds.

[Missing_Minds]

Lady Vol is the last surviving (and I use that term loosely) member of House Vol with the Dragonmark of Death. (The 13th Dragonmark) although when she was turned into a lich, it made the mark unusable.

The Lord of Blades is a "Warforged Visionary" attempting to establish a nation in the Mournlands. There is much debate about him and some look to him as a messiah type figure, while other WF think he needs to be destroyed. There is rumor he was the last Warforged to make it out of the original Creation Forges.

Deities in Eberron are not like typical Deities in other D&D worlds.

This post's bases is what I thought Eberron was like as far as dieties went. No 'true' gods as it were. But within DDO we have the religious lines that follow these beings. Hence why when you split up SH, I was all confused (and still am to a degree). Because of such I really still haven't a clue how to take your suggestion as far as game development/reaching ideas go.

Aren't the ablities via enhancments for religion already good enough for what you are asking or are you wanting something specific? (ala domains, and if that is the case, give sorcs the correct number of spells while you are at it.)

[liamfrancais]

I like the idea following the tenets of one god over the others thusly increasing that particular ability would be great. I believe there may some of this in play with certain feats but can't remember the names. I may also be good for a favor of the gods enhanced ability system ie. use your healing arts to heal 100, 250, 500 etc. others and as you reach the milestones abilities increase, just a thought. Overall I like the idea in fact something like that may get me to play my cleric more often.

[Cowdenicus]

This post's bases is what I thought Eberron was like as far as dieties went. No 'true' gods as it were. But within DDO we have the religious lines that follow these beings. Hence why when you split up SH, I was all confused (and still am to a degree). Because of such I really still haven't a clue how to take your suggestion as far as game development/reaching ideas go.

Aren't the ablities via enhancments for religion already good enough for what you are asking or are you wanting something specific? (ala domains, and if that is the case, give sorcs the correct number of spells while you are at it.)

True Domains will never make it into the game. They are entirely too powerful, and too dificult to code at the same time.

Seriously every cleric out there would take fire domain (firewall BOOYA) and the other one would be up for a choice....

Instead I would like something completely new and inspired by Ebberon from Turbine for Domains.

[Missing_Minds]

True Domains will never make it into the game. They are entirely too powerful, and too dificult to code at the same time.

Seriously every cleric out there would take fire domain (firewall BOOYA) and the other one would be up for a choice....

Instead I would like something completely new and inspired by Ebberon from Turbine for Domains.

Ok, I am agreeable to that. Sorry about being a pain asking so many questions.

[Vorn]

I would like a broader selection of enhancements for dieties as well. Perhaps tier one, as an example, could be Sovereign Host and a second tier could be Dol Arrah? Since alignments are pretty loose wrt dieties/pantheon in Eberron, even for Lady Vol, it might be fun to have additional choices available to Clerics.

[Cowdenicus]

Ok, I am agreeable to that. Sorry about being a pain asking so many questions.

I LOVE lore related questions, while I am no Mystic Theurge (the poster that is) I know a bit about Eberron.

[Cowdenicus]

I would like a broader selection of enhancements for dieties as well. Perhaps tier one, as an example, could be Sovereign Host and a second tier could be Dol Arrah? Since alignments are pretty loose wrt dieties/pantheon in Eberron, even for Lady Vol, it might be fun to have additional choices available to Clerics.

Instead of a faith line like we have currently, I was thinking something Domainish, a bit more powerful, and not costing AP.

[Vorn]

Instead of a faith line like we have currently, I was thinking something Domainish, a bit more powerful, and not costing AP.

I know, I was just trying to think about an easy way to implement it and I, perhaps as a minority, like the enhancement way of implementing these types of customizations. Easy to change out if you don't like it, already exists as a 'way of doing business' in the game, ...just seems simple to me and I am a simple person.

[Missing_Minds]

Instead of a faith line like we have currently, I was thinking something Domainish, a bit more powerful, and not costing AP.

A favor reward, where rewards are based on class/es?

[honkuimushi]

If domain spells are a 1/ day clickie, I don't think they would be overpowered. So a cleric takes the fire domain, he gets 1 firewall / rest. I don't see that as a major problem. But I'm all in favor for more diety specific abilities. My Fighter/ Cleric is juat waiting for a gift from the Traveler. The Spirits of the Past don't get any respect either.

[Missing_Minds]

If domain spells are a 1/ day clickie, I don't think they would be overpowered. So a cleric takes the fire domain, he gets 1 firewall / rest. I don't see that as a major problem. But I'm all in favor for more diety specific abilities. My Fighter/ Cleric is juat waiting for a gift from the Traveler. The Spirits of the Past don't get any respect either.

I don't think you'll get much help from Gozer the Gozerian when in Eberron.

[Twerpp]

True Domains will never make it into the game. They are entirely too powerful, and too dificult to code at the same time.

Seriously every cleric out there would take fire domain (firewall BOOYA) and the other one would be up for a choice....

Instead I would like something completely new and inspired by Ebberon from Turbine for Domains.

BOOOO YOU COW!!! CLERIC DOMAINS FTW!!!!

Too powerful feh. Access to a couple arcane spells? A plus one to-hit bonus with deity weapon? A toughness feat? Pah. Overpowered my bootay. A trifle compared to the already present monty haul.

[Zuldar]

Sure a cleric with the fire domain could cast firewall, but it wouldn't be as powerful as a wizard or sorceror. After all, clerics don't have the enhancements to improve it like they do. Besides what cleric in their right mind would cast firewall, when they could cast a much more powerful blade barrier.