Toughness!!!

[Vormaerin]

Dex based defenses don't have to be AC. Defensive Roll isn't, to take a rogue example. I'm not really sure what a good semi D&D compliant option would be at the moment. But that's the direction I think folks should be looking for solutions if you don't want to just nerf toughness enhancements as the easy way out.

And hp benefits will only benefit everyone if they are so good that you have no choice but to take them. And just stripping a feat and 10 APs from every character automatically to reach par is just a bad, bad, solution.

[QuantumFX]

Dex based defenses don't have to be AC. Defensive Roll isn't, to take a rogue example. I'm not really sure what a good semi D&D compliant option would be at the moment. But that's the direction I think folks should be looking for solutions if you don't want to just nerf toughness enhancements as the easy way out.

And hp benefits will only benefit everyone if they are so good that you have no choice but to take them. And just stripping a feat and 10 APs from every character automatically to reach par is just a bad, bad, solution.

The best DEX based defense that Turbine could implement is Touch Attacks. It's the defense that high dex guys are supposed to have against the nasty fort save and laser beam spells. HERE'S an explaination. (Scroll down to "Touch Attacks")

[Invalid_86]

The best DEX based defense that Turbine could implement is Touch Attacks. It's the defense that high dex guys are supposed to have against the nasty fort save and laser beam spells. HERE'S an explaination. (Scroll down to "Touch Attacks")

Ideally we'd get that when we get Monks, as Monks are frequently the kings of touch AC.

Plus it gets a little old getting automatically hit by ray attacks.

[Vormaerin]

Touch AC would be nice, but it would hardly make a difference in the subject at hand. The problem is that races other than dwarves and warforged do not get a meaningful defensive benefit to compare with the HP or the DR. Most high end characters that are playing the content at which this issue is valid are already not going to be bothered by the stuff that Touch AC generally protects against. Deathward, Freedom of Movement, and elemental resists/protection are de rigeur at that point. The problem is resisting high end melee damage with something actually useful besides just giving everyone dwarf like hp. Touch AC would not provide that.

It would be nice for the dex characters in the low to mid levels trying not to get scorching rayed or searing lighted, but that's not where the issue is. The hp disparity is not make or break at that point because other defenses are viable. At the top end, the high AC guys all have 24 Dex or the like anyway, so its not like they are going to suck on Touch AC either...