A pure Paladin build

**Yoshikata** · 04-12-2008, 12:56 AM

I was messing around with DDO character planner and I was trying to make a cool Pure Paladin build. Problem is I haven't played in awhile and I never hit above 10 so I need a lot of critiquing on it. He's suppose to have high armor class and good saves. I don't know what to expect for gear at higher levels though or what's good at level 16 now.

Any suggestions would be nice

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Pure Paladin
Level 16 Lawful Good Human Male
(16 Paladin) 
Hit Points: 328
Spell Points: 350 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 16
Will: 19

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength             15                 18                   18
Dexterity            13                 16                   16
Constitution         14                 19                   20
Intelligence          8                 11                   11
Wisdom               11                 14                   14
Charisma             14                 19                   22

Tomes Used
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 16
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               1                     3
Bluff                 2                     6
Concentration         6                    22
Diplomacy             6                    23
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                2                     6
Heal                  0                     2
Hide                  1                     3
Intimidate            2                     6
Jump                  2                     4
Listen                0                     2
Move Silently         1                     3
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  0                     2
Swim                  2                     4
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Notable Equipment
Armor: +5 Mithral Full Plate of Greater Fire Resistance 
Shield: +5 Mithral Heavy Steel Shield of Heavy Fortification 
Shield: +5 Mithral Steel Tower Shield of Heavy Fortification 
Helm: Helm of the Mroranon
Khopesh: +5 Holy Khopesh of Pure Good 
Ring: Chattering Ring
Ring: Seal of Earth
Goggles: Spectacular Optics
Necklace: Silver Flame Talisman
Trinket: Kardin’s Eye
Cloak: Mantle of the Dragonfriend
Belt: Belt of Brute Strength
Belt: Belt of Brute Strength
Boots: Madstone Boots
Boots: Gyroscopic Boots of Striding
Boots: Boots of the Innocent
Bracers: Chaosguarde

Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Human Bonus) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I

Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I

Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Enhancement: Human Versatility II

Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I

Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III

Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II

Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell

Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)

Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II

Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II

Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)

Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV

**sigtrent** · 04-12-2008, 01:30 AM

My basic suggetions...

Less dex, more strength. Starting 10 or even 8 dex is fine, I'd go for 10.
Put your abbility raises at levels into strength as well.
Take improved crit at 9 instead of 15.
Take balance over concntration (paladins don't cast much during fights)

**Vicoden** · 04-12-2008, 01:35 AM

Since you are focusing on AC. I would say take intimidate instead of Diplomacy. You want mobs to be attacking you as opposed to the nuking casters and TWF guys. Take intimidate and use it, you will be loved by many!

**Yoshikata** · 04-12-2008, 02:18 AM

I fixed the skills like suggested and added more strength to see what it would look like and minused the dex for strength.

Posting the newer one for comparison.
Anything else?

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Level 16 Lawful Good Human Male
(16 Paladin) 
Hit Points: 312
Spell Points: 350 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 13
Will: 17

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength             16                 22                   22
Dexterity            10                 13                   13
Constitution         14                 17                   18
Intelligence          8                 11                   11
Wisdom               12                 15                   15
Charisma             14                 18                   21

Tomes Used
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 16
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               1                  9                    9
Bluff                 2                  5                    5
Concentration         2                  4                    4
Diplomacy             2                  5                    5
Disable Device       n/a                n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                  5                    5
Heal                  1                  2                    2
Hide                  0                  1                    1
Intimidate            3                 14                   14
Jump                  3                  6                    6
Listen                1                  2                    2
Move Silently         0                  1                    1
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                  0                    0
Search               -1                  0                    0
Spot                  1                  2                    2
Swim                  3                  6                    6
Tumble                n/a               n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a               n/a                   n/a

Notable Equipment
Armor: +5 Mithral Full Plate of Greater Fire Resistance 
Shield: +5 Mithral Heavy Steel Shield of Heavy Fortification 
Shield: +5 Mithral Steel Tower Shield of Heavy Fortification 
Helm: Helm of the Mroranon
Khopesh: +5 Holy Khopesh of Pure Good 
Ring: Chattering Ring
Ring: Seal of Earth
Goggles: Spectacular Optics
Necklace: Silver Flame Talisman
Trinket: Kardin’s Eye
Cloak: Mantle of the Dragonfriend
Belt: Belt of Brute Strength
Belt: Belt of Brute Strength
Boots: Madstone Boots
Boots: Gyroscopic Boots of Striding
Boots: Boots of the Innocent
Bracers: Chaosguarde

Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Human Bonus) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I

Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I

Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Enhancement: Human Versatility II

Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I

Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III

Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II

Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical Slashing

Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)

Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II

Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II

Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)

Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III

Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Heal

Level 16 (Paladin)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV

**Lillitheris** · 04-12-2008, 10:26 AM

A couple of opinions.

Drop Empowered Healing, because for the most part you will be using cure wands for healing.
Max UMD out. High charisma, a Golden Cartouche and Greater Heroism will give you 25ish UMD, which is enough for most race restricted weapons and items.
As a pure human paladin, you can't get a high enough AC to make a huge difference in elite end-content. If you insist on staying pure, try dwarf instead. They get the Armor Mastery -enhancement line which increases your max dexterity bonus on armor. However, you will be spread very thin ability-wise. You need a 22 dex to fill up a mithral full plate with the dwarf Armor Mastery -enhancements. And the -2 to cha will hurt. I wouldn't recommend this unless you have access to 32pt builds and a good set of +stat items.
Swap Force of Personality for something else (Power Attack, Weapon Focus ...). Your saves will be stellar anyway, you won't need the 4-5 extra points on your will save.

**adamkatt** · 04-12-2008, 11:34 AM

Well my pure paladin has hit the reaver up 51 times and netted a whole +3 int tome so far. So putting a full line of +3 tomes may not be a good idea.

As for the build stats i went with

17
12
15
8
12
12

with various +1 and 2 tomes and +6 stat items im currently at

28
18
24
11
20
22

Which so far works out well!

Edit this is a dwarven paly.

**Redcoil** · 04-12-2008, 04:51 PM

The whole thing makes me sad.

**Beherit_Baphomar** · 04-12-2008, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Redcoil

The whole thing makes me sad.

LOL. Because it takes a whole set of +3 Tomes to make a paladin worthwhile?

And yeah, its possible...lets see...run the Reaver a total of 70 times, and Ive gotten a +3 WIS tome as an end
reward.

Oh but the Shroud gives them too. So I get one from the Reaver over 70 runs, and every 20th I get a random one
from The Shroud, so lets say Im real lucky and I get exactly what I need every 20th.

100 runs in the Shroud and 70 Reavers and you too can have a somewhat viable Paladin...sweet!

Sorry man, I dont like when people fill every available slot with raid loot, let alone every stat with a +3 tome.

[eaten by Bee]

Figure out a way around those weak starting stats, dont rely on megarare +3 tomes.

**Redcoil** · 04-12-2008, 05:13 PM

Especially considering that with a more intelligent use of gear, a lv 12 pally could do better...in DPS, healing, AC, saves...

Force of personality: For heaves sake WHY? Yer wills already rediculious.
Reflex is a bit more important, dont you think?

Let alone the stats. Only +3 tome a good pally 'needs' is str, as human pally to hit 32 str.

**Yoshikata** · 04-13-2008, 01:51 AM

The tomes were just there to see what he could be like.
Raid gear?
I've never passed level 10 and I'm not fluent in the ways of DDO. I'll just go back to drawing board on my build.
I apologize if my build has some how offended you.

**Zack77** · 04-13-2008, 02:29 AM

Here. I'll toss out my paladin build. You can change it any way you like, but to me, this is one of my favorites since I'm usually the last man standing, and raising the cleric off his bum

*Note, this is a 28 point build. You can criticize, and I'm not trying to hijack or brag, this is to help you have other builds to compare to
The Equipment he has, however, is what he has equipped atm(mostly, anyway.) Saves and what not are with items, charisma, and ability modifiers added in.

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Kyuukyoku The Demon
Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(16 Paladin) 
Hit Points: 335
Spell Points: 240 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 30
Reflex: 27
Will: 27

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength             14                 20                   20(26)
Dexterity            12                 15                   16(20)
Constitution         12                 13                   13(18)
Intelligence          8                  8                    8
Wisdom               12                 12                   12(18)
Charisma             15                 16                   18(24)

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               1                  3                    3
Bluff                 2                  4                    4
Concentration         1                  1                    1
Diplomacy             2                  4                    4
Disable Device       n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                  4                    4
Heal                  1                  1                    1
Hide                  1                  3                    5
Intimidate            2                  4                    4
Jump                  2                  5                    7
Listen                1                  1                    3
Move Silently         1                  3                    5
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                 -1                   -1
Search               -1                 -1                   -1
Spot                  1                  1                    1
Swim                  2                  5                    5
Tumble                n/a               n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      4                 12.5                 19.5

Notable Equipment
Ring: Ring of Resistance(4) 
Ring: Ring of Protection +5 
Necklace: Wise Necklace of  
Trinket: Head of Good Fortune
Cloak: Charismatic Cloak of  
Gloves:Ogre Power Gloves of
Boots:Madstone Boots
Belt:Health Belt of Lesser False Life
Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Enhancement: Paladin Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Reflex)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I

Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I

Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I

Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Lesser Restoration
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Resistance
Spell (1): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (1): Virtue
Enhancement: Paladin Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I

Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Reflex)
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II

Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II

Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (2): Angelskin
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II

Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II

Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III

Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (3): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III

Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV

Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II

Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Spell (4): Break Enchantment
Spell (4): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (4): Deathward
Spell (4): Holy Sword
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (4): Restoration
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III

Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Attack Boost III
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I

**Yoshikata** · 04-13-2008, 03:26 AM

Thanks Zack77 that helps a lot to have comparison.

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Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Male
(16 Paladin) 
Hit Points: 264
Spell Points: 280 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 12
Will: 12

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement

                 Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
Abilities        (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength             16                 20                   20
Dexterity            10                 10                   10
Constitution         12                 12                   12
Intelligence         13                 13                   13
Wisdom               11                 11                   11
Charisma             16                 17                   19

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               2                  9.5                  9.5
Bluff                 3                  4                    4
Concentration         1                  1                    1
Diplomacy             3                  4                    4
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                3                  4                    4
Heal                  0                  0                    0
Hide                  0                  0                    0
Intimidate            5                 13.5                 13.5
Jump                  3                  5                    5
Listen                0                  0                    2
Move Silently         0                  0                    0
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  1                    1
Search                1                  1                    3
Spot                  0                  0                    2
Swim                  3                  5                    5
Tumble                n/a               n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      5                 13.5                 13.5

Notable Equipment
Armor: +5 Mithral Full Plate of Heavy Fortification 
Shield: +5 Mithral Steel Tower Shield 
Helm: Helm of Wisdom +6
Shortsword: +5 Holy Shortsword of Pure Good 
Ring: Ring of Greater False Life 
Ring: Health Ring +6
Trinket: Kardin’s Eye
Cloak: Mantle of the Dragonfriend
Belt: Belt of Strength +6
Bracers: Chaosguarde

Level 1 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I

Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Improved Drow Spell Resistence I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I

Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I

Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I

Level 5 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

Level 6 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II

Level 7 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II

Level 8 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II

Level 9 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Improved Drow Spell Resistence II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II

Level 10 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Improved Drow Spell Resistence III

Level 11 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II

Level 12 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III

Level 13 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III

Level 14 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV

Level 15 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III

Level 16 (Paladin)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III

AC
10-Base
14 White Dragon Plate
9 Tower Shield
+1 Paladin Aura
+3 Bulwark of Good 3
+2 Dodge Chaos Gaurdes
+5 Protection Item
+5 Combat Expertise
+1 Dex
______
48 AC I believe.

Damage:
1d6

+8 Strength
+2 Drow Melee Damage
+5 Enchantment Bonus
+3 Divine Favor
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18 Damage

Attack Bonus
+16 Attack Bonus
+8 Strength
+5 Enchantment Bonus
+3 Divine Favor
+1 Drow Melee Attack
-2 Tower Shield
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31 To hit

Hit Points:
160 Paladin 16
64 Con
19 Toughness
50 Paladin Toughness
30 Greater False Life
20 Heroic Durability
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343

I believe I didn't use and crazy gear.

At the moment my saves don't seem very high.
With all the items I get about 26/17/20.
Anyone know if that's low?
How's this looking so far?

**Lillitheris** · 04-13-2008, 09:30 AM

Saves breakdown:

Fortitude: 10 (base) + 4 (18 con) + 2 (Paladin Resistance of Good I) + 4 (Resistance item) + 4 (Greater Heroism) + 8 (Paladin Grace of Good) = 32
Reflex: 5 (base) + 3 (16 dex) + 2 (Paladin Resistance of Good I) + 4 (Resistance item) + 4 (Greater Heroism) + 8 (Paladin Grace of Good) = 26
Will: 5 (base) + 4 (18 wis) + 2 (Paladin Resistance of Good I) + 4 (Resistance item) + 4 (Greater Heroism) + 8 (Paladin Grace of Good) = 27

So you're looking at a reasonable minimum of 32/26/27. My Caius (pal15) runs around with about 37/30/31 (22 con, Kardin's Eye, Prayer, Resistance of Good II, Ethereal Bracers).

AC breakdown:

10 base
14 armor (Dragon plate. In my opinion Black is a lot smarter choice for a paladin, Wizardry V and all.)
01 dex (If you can get your hands on a Daggertooth's Belt, you can add 2 to your max dex. It's a random drop in the Crucible.)
05 deflection (protection item)
02 dodge (Chaosgarde)
03 aura (Bulwark of Good II)
05 Combat Expertise (I don't recommend this as you can't cast spells when it's on.)
09 shield (Farm the Reaver for a Madstone Shield so that you don't have to spend a feat on tower shield proficiency.)
01 Haste
03 natural armor (Barkskin potion)
=
53

Add 2 with a Daggertooth's Belt, 2 with a friendly ranger (Barkskin), 2 with a friendly cleric (Recitation), 1 with a weapon of Parrying, 2 with Defensive Fighting on and 2 when blocking. If you get lucky and score a Chattering Ring out of the Titan raid, that's another +3. And in Mod7 you will have access to Bulwark of Good IV, which is another +2.
So we're looking at a maximum of 69 AC. Not too shabby.

**Yoshikata** · 04-13-2008, 01:08 PM

Thank you Lillitheris that helps a lot.

**LeslieWest_GuitarGod** · 04-13-2008, 01:13 PM

Whenever I see a proposed build start off with 6 +3 tomes I move along... its pure fantasy... of Disney proportions.

**Borror0** · 04-13-2008, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by LeslieWest_GuitarGod

Whenever I see a proposed build start off with 6 +3 tomes I move along... its pure fantasy... of Disney proportions.

Dude, read the thread... he said he did it for the fun of it.

He doesn't even expect to have that. He's looking for advises...

**adamkatt** · 04-13-2008, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by LeslieWest_GuitarGod

Whenever I see a proposed build start off with 6 +3 tomes I move along... its pure fantasy... of Disney proportions.

Well we know its possible in say 1000 reaver runs! Maybe!

**maddmatt70** · 04-13-2008, 07:02 PM

I am actually going to disagree about the pure fantasy +3 tome thinking comments. +3 tomes are going to become actually realistic with the next mod. You will get the opportunity to get a +3 tome in the following raids: shroud(very likely so far the posts I have seen and my own personal experience suggests 1-3 +3 tomes per 20th run), the abbot (this raid will be fixed and hence playable according to the devs next mod, but should have a poor drop rate like the reaver), the reaver (poor drop rate I actually dont think this is worth the time and the effort to run it), the new raid (odds are the new raid will have a similiar drop rate to the shroud on the 20th), mod 8 (which in theory is 4 months away or so will probably have +4 tomes), favor award (the game is due for a new favor award which could possible be a +3 or higher tome and I wouldn't be surprised if this was +4 - ddo needs a new favor incentive as there is little currently). Finally, when the cap reaches 20th level we should be able to loot +3 tomes in chests in non raids.

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