Public Pally Opinion

[Redcoil]

From the 4e articles I have read, there are a few cool things. In this case I would like it if they added "Reliable" to Smite Evil. Reliable in 4e means that if you use a per day ability and it misses, you don't expend the ability. In this case, if you miss with a Smite Evil, you won't use it up.

Thats a big known issue, and I believe one of the motivating, if not the largest motivational factore in the 90 second regens.

[Borror0]

That delay annoys me to no end too, I'm looking into why it's misbehaving but can't promise anything with that one at this time. It's on my bug list.

Nice! Now, let's do a thread for new spells...

Elite Orthon Defenders should need an 8 or higher to hit you at a 57 AC, unless it was buffed.

Cool, I'll test that agaion shorly.

[Sem34]

ahhh and i was getting ready to post another idea... o well Sem will greatly like the change to Smite even more now

[HumanJHawkins]

Elite Orthon Defenders should need an 8 or higher to hit you at a 57 AC, unless it was buffed.

Wow... That means with a 51 AC, they hit on any roll over 1. I think that is confirmation that AC is broken. Any plans to fix AC in the near future?

Thanks!

[Taojeff]

Wow... That means with a 51 AC, they hit on any roll over 1. I think that is confirmation that AC is broken. Any plans to fix AC in the near future?

Thanks!

I would like to see a wider ranger of armor enchancing gear, spells, and well enhancements.

[Redcoil]

I like how a thread devoted to one thing gets an appropriate answer, and as soon as its shown some Dev attention they then get mobbed by things totally unrelated.

Leave 'em alone, harass him on your own armor-thread or something.

If you REALLY want some feedback on that, keep it positive, inquisitive, and try to give them ideas too rather than just 'fix it, thanks!' and you're likely to get an answer.

[llevenbaxx]

There's still one important change that hasn't made it to a WDA yet:

• Paladin Smite Evil uses now regenerate at a rate of 1 every 90 seconds.

Exalted Smiting will also reduce the cooldown between smites to 5/4/3/2 seconds. (And Extra Smiting does drop back down to 1 extra per rank, but it now modifies the maximum number of smites usable in an important encounter rather than between shrines.)


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Now you guys are getting on target. This makes me a little more excited to try them out.

[Ironwind]

There's still one important change that hasn't made it to a WDA yet:

• Paladin Smite Evil uses now regenerate at a rate of 1 every 90 seconds.

Ok I'm still on my first cup of coffee, so...
Does this mean that if my Paladin has 3 Smite Evils, that I can burn them all and 270 seconds later have them all back?

That, IMO, kicks bootay

[Dungnmaster001]

[/LIST]Ok I'm still on my first cup of coffee, so...
Does this mean that if my Paladin has 3 Smite Evils, that I can burn them all and 270 seconds later have them all back?

That, IMO, kicks bootay

Yep that's the way I read it too.

Blow all 3 smites on a target. 90 seconds later 1 back, 180 seconds later another back, 270 seconds later the 3rd back

edit: forgot to mention it before: Thanks Eladrin for giving us this little tidbit to calm some of the more negative responses to the "Pally Love" issue. This is one reason I prefer to wait til I have all the information before jumping down someone's throat. People need to realize that the weekly dev activities threads don't have ALL the information on anything. Some things get held back because they aren't ready or may change, some get held back as a surprise for patch day, etc.

[HumanJHawkins]

I like how a thread devoted to one thing gets an appropriate answer, and as soon as its shown some Dev attention they then get mobbed by things totally unrelated.

Leave 'em alone, harass him on your own armor-thread or something.

Lol... I think you have mentally merged a lot of the negative posts from other threads into my post (and the other guy who replied). I hardly think anything either of us said was impolite or even critical of the devs. (Pointing out a flaw is not inherently impolite)

But you are right about this being more appropriate for another thread... I'll start a new one.
Thanks!

[Shade]

Wow... That means with a 51 AC, they hit on any roll over 1. I think that is confirmation that AC is broken. Any plans to fix AC in the near future?

Thanks!

That's on elite. And for elite - 51 AC is really poor these days.

If they lowered there to-hit to say +41 or so, so they miss that 51AC, about 50% of the time.. The truely elite AC (61+) guys with never get hit, making the quest hardly an elite challenge for them, more like a total joke. Thats what would sound broken to me.

There has to be a careful balance for that to work, and giving them +50 to hit makes perfect sense to me. It's the same to hit score my elite barbarian has, so why wouldn't the monsters have just as high - there about CR28ish, youd think they could match up to lvl16 players.

And considering the max AC is well over 70 - +50 is fine, i would even suggest raising it since the raid on elite really isn't that difficult.

[Ironwind]

Wow... That means with a 51 AC, they hit on any roll over 1. I think that is confirmation that AC is broken. Any plans to fix AC in the near future?

Thanks!

A level 24 human warrior has a +24 BAB, consider he has an easy to achieve 34 strength (+12), a +5 weapon, weapon focus (+1), greater weapon focus (+2), Fighter Attack Boost IV (+4) and suddenly that human warrior hits AC51 on a 3+

Really not at all unreasonable that a CR24 Elite Orthon hits AC51 on a 2+

[Cowdenicus]

That delay annoys me to no end too, I'm looking into why it's misbehaving but can't promise anything with that one at this time. It's on my bug list.

Does Smite use the same mechanic as spell casting, if so, that is where your issue lies.

[Borror0]

If you REALLY want some feedback on that, keep it positive, inquisitive, and try to give them ideas too rather than just 'fix it, thanks!' and you're likely to get an answer.

Nah, that just proves you've been lucky today and Eladrin felt like posting. That is all.

Yep that's the way I read it too.

Me too.

[Cowdenicus]

Now if I could just get Eladrin to look at clerics.....

[Borror0]

I would even suggest raising it since the raid on elite really isn't that difficult.

Says the guy without AC.

[Borror0]

Now if I could just get Eladrin to look at clerics.....

Clerics are fine. It's only that Vanash is a gimp.

[Cowdenicus]

Clerics are fine. It's only that Vanash is a gimp.

I would be happy with a targeted boost to fix that then.....

[VonBek]

Thanks, both of you.

[ahpook]

That's on elite. And for elite - 51 AC is really poor these days.

You sure about that? He said "Elite Orthon Defenders should need an 8 or higher". In this case the Elite is part of the monster name and not the difficulty level of the quest.