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    Question i need advice please

    did i gimp my character? i wasnt thinking when i made him....for some reason when i made him, i thought chaotic nuetral would be able to use ALL weapons....(nuetral...in the middle....). i cant use pure good. now, here is where i need the advice...i always thought of holy burst of pure good to be the biggest dps out there. am i wrong? what weapons are comparable?? i wish i had thought of asking this question 9 lvls ago. ive been compensating for the pg'lessness by using maiming. +x (elemental) burst of maiming. the +1 holy burst of maiming that i picked up is going to be my main for a bit, i think. unless i re-roll. so. to get back to the point. did i shoot my barb in the foot when i made him?

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    I actually made my barbarian true neutral. I though I shot myself in the foot as well. Now, at level 16, I am not as concerned with what alignment I am. My main weapons are my +5 acidburst greatsword (greensteel), my Cloudburst, and different greater bane weapons. Yea, you take pg out of the picture, but there are so many to choose from out there, that pg isn't a deal breaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valgron View Post
    I actually made my barbarian true neutral. I though I shot myself in the foot as well. Now, at level 16, I am not as concerned with what alignment I am. My main weapons are my +5 acidburst greatsword (greensteel), my Cloudburst, and different greater bane weapons. Yea, you take pg out of the picture, but there are so many to choose from out there, that pg isn't a deal breaker.
    /agreed

    Also, if you are still low enough level you might be able to get enough UMD to bypass that restriction with a friendly GH, a UMD item and maybe a friendly bard.

    Greater bane is pretty mighty too, though admittedly tiresome to swap especially when fighting mixed mobs.
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    It's less of a big deal now, with the Shroud weapons (and true resurrection clicky) that don't require you to be good-aligned. So I would really not re-roll for it (the immunity to unholy damage can be useful too).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tihocan View Post
    It's less of a big deal now, with the Shroud weapons (and true resurrection clicky) that don't require you to be good-aligned. So I would really not re-roll for it (the immunity to unholy damage can be useful too).
    so you dont have to be good to use the good-burst or true res clickys or ANY restricted type stuff from the shroud items??? sweet!!! i was worried i wasnt going to get much of that stuff!!! figured no ring of the ancesters = no true res clicky. nice. ok, awesome guys. thanks alot for your inputs. makes me feel better now. i would have hated to delete this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris P. Letus View Post
    so you dont have to be good to use the good-burst or true res clickys or ANY restricted type stuff from the shroud items??? sweet!!! i was worried i wasnt going to get much of that stuff!!! figured no ring of the ancesters = no true res clicky. nice. ok, awesome guys. thanks alot for your inputs. makes me feel better now. i would have hated to delete this guy.
    There are optons though. Most resricted items,
    will required a UMD of around 20 which is not impossible to get.

    You can also look into the stability items which REQUIRE you to be Neutral.

    Any of your elemntal Burst items are well within you grasp as well...
    as are the Paralizers, banishers, Vorpals, etc.

    You may have chose a different career path, but No you did not Gimp your character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaselKing View Post
    /agreed

    Also, if you are still low enough level you might be able to get enough UMD to bypass that restriction with a friendly GH, a UMD item and maybe a friendly bard.

    Greater bane is pretty mighty too, though admittedly tiresome to swap especially when fighting mixed mobs.
    i dont think there is ANY chance of me gettin enough umd to EVER bypass any restricton. cha was my dump stat. 6. boooo. kind of like the old dnd quote. "half orc barbarian. cuz who needs charisma." with my 16 pali with a cha of 27 i just managed to end up with 19.5 umd. with the golden cartouche (thingy....) so if SHES .5 off, and ive been puttin ranks into it, i cant see my barb gettin there either....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris P. Letus View Post
    i dont think there is ANY chance of me gettin enough umd to EVER bypass any restricton. cha was my dump stat. 6. boooo. kind of like the old dnd quote. "half orc barbarian. cuz who needs charisma." with my 16 pali with a cha of 27 i just managed to end up with 19.5 umd. with the golden cartouche (thingy....) so if SHES .5 off, and ive been puttin ranks into it, i cant see my barb gettin there either....
    brings back memories of my old barb. rolled 2 18's a 16 and 3 crappy numbers. man we were rolling on the ground laughign as some of the stupid things he did

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadkill525 View Post
    brings back memories of my old barb. rolled 2 18's a 16 and 3 crappy numbers. man we were rolling on the ground laughign as some of the stupid things he did
    Hee Hee, I know what you mean...
    I had a character turned in to a troll once...

    I had to draw stick figures to communicate because he was so
    dumb he couldn't even Speak COMMON!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris P. Letus View Post
    i dont think there is ANY chance of me gettin enough umd to EVER bypass any restricton. cha was my dump stat. 6. boooo. kind of like the old dnd quote. "half orc barbarian. cuz who needs charisma." with my 16 pali with a cha of 27 i just managed to end up with 19.5 umd. with the golden cartouche (thingy....) so if SHES .5 off, and ive been puttin ranks into it, i cant see my barb gettin there either....
    my dwarf ranger/fighter with a 6 cha+2 tome+6cloak hits a 31 UMD so you should be able to hit a 26 since you dont have a skill boost. could also add 2 rogue for UMD and evasion at 15 and 16 but thats a whole different topic.

    9.5 ranks
    +2 charisma
    +5 command
    +4 GH
    +5 skill boost
    +6 shroud item
    +2 head of good fortune

    33 Self Buffed

    Minus 5 for skill boost for you for a 28

    2 Rogue Levels would look like this

    19.5 Ranks
    +5 item
    +4 GH
    +2 CHA Modifier
    +5/2 human versatility/rogue boost
    +6 shroud goggles
    +2 head of good fortune

    total 43/40 UMD
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