Item Locations

[paintedman]

I'm looking at all these builds with items and what not, and I can't help but wonder how people are loading thier toons, specifically, where the items are going.

I have a WF Pally and even with the absence of psn immunity I'm still having trouble with having enough item slots.

Items
Helm Minos
Trinket POP
Necklace Res +3
Armour Quick +4
Cloak Cha +6
Ring 1 Prot +5
Ring 2 Wis +4
Gloves Str +5
Bracers CG
Belt DB
Boots Dex +4

and I'd still like to get a Ring of Balance and Chattering Ring, plus Kardigans Eye. Actually KE would help me out lots, but the chances of getting are pretty low.

I wonder if with my build (10 wis) I have not painted myself into a corner. Although making a wf pally is tuff with two main stats being hit with reductions.

Any advice?

-paintedman

[bandyman1]

I don't think it's a bad set-up really, but you could use some improvements to gear you have.

Upgrade your Stat items to +6 versions ( assuming that would give you an even stat ). Resist +4 rings are fairly common, and so are Wis. necklaces, so you might want to swap those two.

As a pally, your saves should be pretty uber already. Kardin's eye , while certainly nice, is really more benificial to a lower save toon. +1 isn't going to make much of a difference.

Personally, I'd swap the POP out for the DQ jerky as soon as possible. Greater False Life in a trinket slot is awesome, and the regen clicky doesn't suck. Make yourself some greensteel goggles with wizardry VI, and you'll gain mana to boot.

How high is your Wisdom without items BTW? If it's a least 11 ( high enough to cast DF ), then it'd be fairly simple to buff yourself and party members, then use that slot for your chattering ring. Just remember to swap back before you shrine.

It's a fact; High AC toons use a lot of slots, but creativity goes a long way in making everything fit.

[Jondallar]

Bandy has some good points.

I offer these alternatives...

Compromise on the Kardins eye and get the stormreaver Head of good fortune... (+2 saves -luck and Moderate fort)

Then drop the minos legens (I know, not a popular choice but really its only 18 hp) This will free up your helmet slot for +6 wisdom Item (off sets mana loss from removing your Pop and adds +1 to your present will save) you can also swap a wisdom helm after buffing, to a Night Forge Helm +5 will save (Black Anvil Mines -addy ore) to maintain wisdom for DF, virtue, and Resists.

Now you have a free ring slot to add chattering ring or any other ring you would want (most useful free spot IMO)

Another item that might be of interest is acquiring (easier said than done ) one of the Orchard Shields of legend... Fanion is pretty awesome trading 1 ac for G falselife, Magi and the Arcane spell failure benefits for scroll usage....Sorrel is also pretty good too +4 prot/+4 resist on a +5 heavy Shield

[Zer0AcmE]

Here's what I currently have:

Helm - Minos Legens (Toughness, Heavy Fortification)
Trinket - Mummified Bat (Feather Fall) Switch to - Head of Good Fortune (+2 Luck), Pouch of Jerky (Greater False Life, Regenration)
Necklace - Underwater Action of Protection +5
Armor - Centurion Armor (+5 Full Plate, 2 max dex, -4 armor check penalty, +4 Reflex)
Cloak - Charisma +6
Ring 1 - Constitution +6 (Right hand, never comes off)
Ring 2 - Wisdom +6 Switch to - Dexterity +6 (After I cast buffs), Jump +15
Gloves - Strength +6 Switch to - Seven Fingered Gloves (+5 Use Magic Device)
Bracers - Chaosgarde
Belt - Daggertooth Belt (Fighter Armor Mastery II)
Boots - Gyroscopic Boots (+10 Balance, 30% Striding)
Shield - Fanion (+4 Heavy, Mithral, Twilight, Magi, Greater False Life) * As Jondallar stated, worth the lose of +1 AC
Goggles - Sandstorm Goggles (Blindness Ward, True Seeing)

Posting mine because it's the best I have been able to come up with so far, wouldn't mind opinions on it and wanted to show you a version I believe is topped out. The only thing missing is a Chattering Ring, I would replace the +6 Dex Ring with it, replace the Gyroscopic Boots as the main boots with Dex +6 Boots and switch out Power Attack for the Least Dragon Mark of Passage (25% Striding for 16 minutes, 32 if it's Extended). My Dex with +6 Ring is 18, so I get the max from Daggertooth and Centurian Armor. Also, prefer potions of Barkskin over the Ring of Balance or Seal of Earth, they just save a spot.

For a Warforge Paladin however I would say the Head of Good Fortune is a must, Mod. Fort. on a trinket with +2 Luck, nice for UMD. Keep the POP there also, buff, then switch out. Leaves you the option for either +6 Wisdom or Charisma on a helm. The combo Jondallar stated with the +6 Wisdom Helm/ Night Forge Helm swap is a terrific idea. Also, I agree with bandyman1, your saves should be fine, don't waste a slot on a Resistance item. Then only reason to have one is for PVP, then just slap on a +5 anywhere casue your more then likely dealing with a caster and nothing else will matter.

[adamkatt]

goggles wiz 6 greensteel w/stoneskin clicky
minos helm
wis 6 necklace/con 6/ optic nerves/jorg collar(rarly use now)(oh i swap out the wis 6 after buffing also)
head of good fortune/bloodstone
resist +4 cloak
chaosguard
cha 6 ring
prot +5 ring
str 6 gloves/assortment of clicky golves
madstone/30% striders
magi khopesh for buffing
grt flase life belt

[Ninety]

15 pali/1 fighter current:

Helm: mino (will be swapped to greensteel of mineral 2 after I get my weapon upgraded)
Neck: con+6
Trinket: +5 resist
Cloak: +6 cha
belt: Titan Belt (+6 str, greater false life)
ring1: Protection +5 (going to swap in the ring of balance when I get the greensteel of mineral 2 helm)
Ring2: Chattering ring
Gloves: DQ gloves (greater spearblock, thornguard)
Boots: Currently have 5 sets of madstone boots that I use nearly constantly
Bracer: chaosgardes
goggles: Trueseeing Goggles.
Armor: +5 mith fp, or when pvping +4 acid guard mith fp.

With the reaver shield, I'm at 50 standing unbuffed AC, 54 with madstone on. I'm making the +4 AC weapon to use as my primary weapon, so soon that will be 58. Saves are pretty insane too. with GH I'm in the 32-39 range for everything.

[artvan_delet]

You're seeing basic yet high-end item builds.

I run with bloodstone in the trinket slot, and get great commander or supreme commander goggles with the full hit points. If you get balance of land and sky on these goggles you'll add balance, ac and prot. If people are talking of builds with chattering ring, jerky, and sandstorm goggles, then you might as well consider these.

[elraido]

Helm: +6 wisdom helm (dragon raid item), sometimes the Mino Legens if I burn threw spell points and I need hp
Neck: Nightforge Gorget/Ahearnts Pendent when healing
Trinket: Bloodstone
Cloak: Dragonfriend Cloak (+5 char +7 diplomacy)
belt: +6 str belt
ring1: seal of the earth (dq raid), ring of balance (if I need balance), feather falling ring (if needed)
Ring2: Improved false life of proof against poison (never leaves hand)
Gloves: +4 dex gloves of shield or Eternal Guantlets if I choose just to heal
Boots: Golden Grieves or Madstone Boots
Bracer: Kundarak Warding bracers (+3 con, resist, pro)
goggles: +5 int goggles...yippeeeee
Armor: Black dragonplate
Shield: Madstone Shield or +5 adamantine heavy shield

[Dexxaan]

Bruttus - Dwarf - 12 Paladin 4 Fighter

All gear remains in place ALWAYS unless FFall or Swimming or Necklace at expense of 48 HP's.

Helm: +6 CHA Helm
Neck: +6 CON Necklace / Bluefire Necklace / Fully Upgraded Silver Flame Necklace
Trinket: Kardin's Eye / Pearl of Sirines
Cloak: +5 Protection
Belt: Electric Haze
Ring 1: Seal of the Earth (DQ) / Feather Falling Ring of Tumble +10 (if needed)
Ring 2: Chattering Ring (Titan)
Gloves: +6 STR Gloves of Heal +5
Boots: Madstone Boots
Bracer: Chaosgarde's
Goggles: Mentau's and Working on Greater Electric Resist + +2 CHA Skill Goggles
Armor: Black Dragonplate
Shield: +5 Mithril Tower Shield of Spell Resistance 15

[paintedman]

Thanks you all, good stuff in it. I figured those builds that had five +6 stat items were a little out there. But as for my 13.4 wf pally, he is gonna go the wis helm route, as he just got one on a dragon raid last week.

The Ideal Set up for this guy

Items
Helm: Wis +6
Trinket: HGF
Necklace: Con +6
Armour: Quick +4
Shield: Res/Prot 4
Cloack: Cha +6
Ring 1: CR
Ring 2: RB
Gloves: Str +6
Bracers: CG
Belt: DB
Boots: Dex +6

However, that is a lot of raiding and some quest that many people do not do very often. The HGF though should be pretty easy to get, then I can drop the Mino and use the Wis helm and pick up a Ring of Balance till I steal a Chattering ring from the DQ.

Not even gonna think about the shield...thats just painful.

So at this point, should I really try for the big 60?

But thanks for the inside look at your items, pretty sure WF pally was the way to go for my first AC build, any thoughts on WF paladins?

-paintedman

[Ninety]

chattering ring comes from titan, not DQ

[paintedman]

but the Necro Shield will be a pain to get, so I'll be keeping my +5 prot ring till then, and "upgrading" from RoB to CR, not using both till I get the shield. A bit unclear on that last post, please forgive! NO MORE BEATINGS!

Or slapping with lawsuits http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/di...-20080225.html

-paintedman

[elraido]

To get the shield is such a huge pain, that is why I ended up keeping the Kundarak Warding bracers and using the Madstone Shield (or if you can get one if you have a high enough dex and mithral full plate a mithral tower shield). You only loose 1 on resist and protection but still gain +2 on the AC from the tower shield. (I think it is +2, can't remember off the top of my head) So if you can live with a couple less HP or don't mind using a spot for another con item, that is a decent way to go as well.

[adamkatt]

+6 stat items in paticular were a bit more difficult to get last mod. no so much this mod.

[elraido]

Bruttus - Dwarf - 12 Paladin 4 Fighter


Goggles: Mentau's and Working on Greater Electric Resist + +2 CHA Skill Goggles

Greensteel item?

[Dexxaan]

Greensteel item?

Yes Greensteel.

That way at the expense of a mere 48 Hit Points I have Greater Acid / Fire and Electric resistance without having to be worried about shuffling gear and zero Mana expenditure for me or my group.