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    I'm looking at all these builds with items and what not, and I can't help but wonder how people are loading thier toons, specifically, where the items are going.

    I have a WF Pally and even with the absence of psn immunity I'm still having trouble with having enough item slots.

    Items
    Helm Minos
    Trinket POP
    Necklace Res +3
    Armour Quick +4
    Cloak Cha +6
    Ring 1 Prot +5
    Ring 2 Wis +4
    Gloves Str +5
    Bracers CG
    Belt DB
    Boots Dex +4

    and I'd still like to get a Ring of Balance and Chattering Ring, plus Kardigans Eye. Actually KE would help me out lots, but the chances of getting are pretty low.

    I wonder if with my build (10 wis) I have not painted myself into a corner. Although making a wf pally is tuff with two main stats being hit with reductions.

    Any advice?

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    I don't think it's a bad set-up really, but you could use some improvements to gear you have.

    Upgrade your Stat items to +6 versions ( assuming that would give you an even stat ). Resist +4 rings are fairly common, and so are Wis. necklaces, so you might want to swap those two.

    As a pally, your saves should be pretty uber already. Kardin's eye , while certainly nice, is really more benificial to a lower save toon. +1 isn't going to make much of a difference.

    Personally, I'd swap the POP out for the DQ jerky as soon as possible. Greater False Life in a trinket slot is awesome, and the regen clicky doesn't suck. Make yourself some greensteel goggles with wizardry VI, and you'll gain mana to boot.

    How high is your Wisdom without items BTW? If it's a least 11 ( high enough to cast DF ), then it'd be fairly simple to buff yourself and party members, then use that slot for your chattering ring. Just remember to swap back before you shrine.

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    Bandy has some good points.

    I offer these alternatives...

    Compromise on the Kardins eye and get the stormreaver Head of good fortune... (+2 saves -luck and Moderate fort)

    Then drop the minos legens (I know, not a popular choice but really its only 18 hp) This will free up your helmet slot for +6 wisdom Item (off sets mana loss from removing your Pop and adds +1 to your present will save) you can also swap a wisdom helm after buffing, to a Night Forge Helm +5 will save (Black Anvil Mines -addy ore) to maintain wisdom for DF, virtue, and Resists.

    Now you have a free ring slot to add chattering ring or any other ring you would want (most useful free spot IMO)

    Another item that might be of interest is acquiring (easier said than done ) one of the Orchard Shields of legend... Fanion is pretty awesome trading 1 ac for G falselife, Magi and the Arcane spell failure benefits for scroll usage....Sorrel is also pretty good too +4 prot/+4 resist on a +5 heavy Shield

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    Here's what I currently have:

    Helm - Minos Legens (Toughness, Heavy Fortification)
    Trinket - Mummified Bat (Feather Fall) Switch to - Head of Good Fortune (+2 Luck), Pouch of Jerky (Greater False Life, Regenration)
    Necklace - Underwater Action of Protection +5
    Armor - Centurion Armor (+5 Full Plate, 2 max dex, -4 armor check penalty, +4 Reflex)
    Cloak - Charisma +6
    Ring 1 - Constitution +6 (Right hand, never comes off)
    Ring 2 - Wisdom +6 Switch to - Dexterity +6 (After I cast buffs), Jump +15
    Gloves - Strength +6 Switch to - Seven Fingered Gloves (+5 Use Magic Device)
    Bracers - Chaosgarde
    Belt - Daggertooth Belt (Fighter Armor Mastery II)
    Boots - Gyroscopic Boots (+10 Balance, 30% Striding)
    Shield - Fanion (+4 Heavy, Mithral, Twilight, Magi, Greater False Life) * As Jondallar stated, worth the lose of +1 AC
    Goggles - Sandstorm Goggles (Blindness Ward, True Seeing)

    Posting mine because it's the best I have been able to come up with so far, wouldn't mind opinions on it and wanted to show you a version I believe is topped out. The only thing missing is a Chattering Ring, I would replace the +6 Dex Ring with it, replace the Gyroscopic Boots as the main boots with Dex +6 Boots and switch out Power Attack for the Least Dragon Mark of Passage (25% Striding for 16 minutes, 32 if it's Extended). My Dex with +6 Ring is 18, so I get the max from Daggertooth and Centurian Armor. Also, prefer potions of Barkskin over the Ring of Balance or Seal of Earth, they just save a spot.

    For a Warforge Paladin however I would say the Head of Good Fortune is a must, Mod. Fort. on a trinket with +2 Luck, nice for UMD. Keep the POP there also, buff, then switch out. Leaves you the option for either +6 Wisdom or Charisma on a helm. The combo Jondallar stated with the +6 Wisdom Helm/ Night Forge Helm swap is a terrific idea. Also, I agree with bandyman1, your saves should be fine, don't waste a slot on a Resistance item. Then only reason to have one is for PVP, then just slap on a +5 anywhere casue your more then likely dealing with a caster and nothing else will matter.
    Last edited by Zer0AcmE; 03-24-2008 at 08:39 AM.

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    Default My Paladins load.

    goggles wiz 6 greensteel w/stoneskin clicky
    minos helm
    wis 6 necklace/con 6/ optic nerves/jorg collar(rarly use now)(oh i swap out the wis 6 after buffing also)
    head of good fortune/bloodstone
    resist +4 cloak
    chaosguard
    cha 6 ring
    prot +5 ring
    str 6 gloves/assortment of clicky golves
    madstone/30% striders
    magi khopesh for buffing
    grt flase life belt
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    15 pali/1 fighter current:

    Helm: mino (will be swapped to greensteel of mineral 2 after I get my weapon upgraded)
    Neck: con+6
    Trinket: +5 resist
    Cloak: +6 cha
    belt: Titan Belt (+6 str, greater false life)
    ring1: Protection +5 (going to swap in the ring of balance when I get the greensteel of mineral 2 helm)
    Ring2: Chattering ring
    Gloves: DQ gloves (greater spearblock, thornguard)
    Boots: Currently have 5 sets of madstone boots that I use nearly constantly
    Bracer: chaosgardes
    goggles: Trueseeing Goggles.
    Armor: +5 mith fp, or when pvping +4 acid guard mith fp.

    With the reaver shield, I'm at 50 standing unbuffed AC, 54 with madstone on. I'm making the +4 AC weapon to use as my primary weapon, so soon that will be 58. Saves are pretty insane too. with GH I'm in the 32-39 range for everything.

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