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    Is it just me or are you other clerics having this problem?

    As soon as we get in a quest it starts...

    Player 1: Can I have buffs true seeing,fire resist and death ward?
    Player 2: Me too..but add in electric resist as well
    player 3: Me too
    Me: Whoh...hold your horses there...don't you guys have pots? I don't do that stuff get some clickies sheesh

    needless to say I buff no one but myself and my pet rocky..
    we stand around for a while until they stop yelling at me and sending me all these tells...

    we begin...

    we encounter or first mob...
    the stupid fighters get agro and attempt to take down the mobs me and my pet ran ahead and got ..

    Player 1: ***??? are you gonna heal us or just stand there watching?
    Player 2: Need a heal!!...C'mon man please can I get a heal?
    Player 3: At least put up a blade or something!
    Me: Pffft get an AC losers ya see that blue bar...that's for me

    Of course we win the fight (no thanks to the cry baby tanks)....
    Again we stand around while all the yelling goes on again....

    My pet goes away so I have to make another...
    and buff him up...
    while having to listen to the other players complain that they have to heal up so...
    I squelch them.
    The Sorc has the nerve to ask if I have any DV's so, I'm like do you?...
    more grumbles...
    /squelch
    So they all have like %10 health and sit around drinking pots and wand whipping each other....
    while they are slacking off ....
    I train another mob back to where we were resting


    At the next fight the bard is franticly wand whipping the stupid fighters...
    I create a mummy...
    it turns on the fighters and begins kicking the snot out of them...
    It kills the sorc right away and for some reason they all think this is my fault...
    so I feel bad and give them a hero's feast..
    the sorc now expects me to rez him...
    I'm like you died from your own stupidity I don't fix that..
    2 seconds later they all call out and break group...
    they put up a LFM lookin for a cleric and wont let me join.

    friggin noobs...I put them all on my "list"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laith View Post
    my thoughts exactly.
    Sorry...bored at work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altarboy View Post
    Player 1: ***???
    my thoughts exactly.

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    Well played, Sir! Well played.

    (don'cha just hate those Chaotic Neutral role players? )

    I would hope that's not a true story...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altarboy View Post
    friggin noobs...I put them all on my "list"
    My clerics list is so huge Im hard pushed to find someone I can actually see/hear in a party.

    Hell, even the guildies are squelched...n00bs.
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    Altar, that's you? I heard a legend about a cleric and his pet rock. Laughed my ass off then too.

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    I vote for this post as post of the week!

    If this is true, I would laugh.

    I also doubt most of my toons would die......

    It almost makes me want to buy some high lvl clerics account just so I can pull off the same kind of stunts!

    You're my new hero!

    (note: I have a healing cleric and all my toons who can heal others....even the BattleCleric....I hate it, but I do it)
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    dood. u must have the longest list of noobs ever. uber clerics don't heal. they summon.
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    Awesome.. I loved the buffing of the pet in front of the noobs part the best

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    Sounds like a typical guild run for us, why the drama?
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    Go buy heal scrolls there not that expensive and use some mana to buff and stop complaining.

    P.S those buffs will save you mana/money in the long run

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    I can only assume that you're looking for attention here, because In my two years of playing I have never seen a cleric behave that way. But If you do then I can understand why you would be removed from groups. Both of my mains are clerics so you can't claim that I don't understand and I have pugged more often than guild ran.
    A cleric is the primary healer, secondary buffer and COMBAT caster, yes you can do all these things at once provided you know how to.
    IMHO your play style..IF you actually play that way is very linear and ineffective. But something tells me that this story is somewhat embellished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lasac View Post
    Go buy heal scrolls there not that expensive and use some mana to buff and stop complaining.

    P.S those buffs will save you mana/money in the long run
    You want me to spend plat AND use my mana???..I think not!..thats what the bard is for!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaltervox12 View Post
    I can only assume that you're looking for attention here, because In my two years of playing I have never seen a cleric behave that way. But If you do then I can understand why you would be removed from groups. Both of my mains are clerics so you can't claim that I don't understand and I have pugged more often than guild ran.
    A cleric is the primary healer, secondary buffer and COMBAT caster, yes you can do all these things at once provided you know how to.
    IMHO your play style..IF you actually play that way is very linear and ineffective. But something tells me that this story is somewhat embellished.
    Look here youngster...
    I been playin since headstart and I say this is the "only" way to play a cleric....
    pffffttt you prolly even heal the lowly warforged!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaltervox12 View Post
    I can only assume that you're looking for attention here, because In my two years of playing I have never seen a cleric behave that way. But If you do then I can understand why you would be removed from groups. Both of my mains are clerics so you can't claim that I don't understand and I have pugged more often than guild ran.
    A cleric is the primary healer, secondary buffer and COMBAT caster, yes you can do all these things at once provided you know how to.
    IMHO your play style..IF you actually play that way is very linear and ineffective. But something tells me that this story is somewhat embellished.
    sorry dude, but you are wrong. a cleric's role at LOW levels is a primary healer, secondary buffer and combat caster due to the non availability of martial weapon proficiencies, lousy combat spells and fixed healing spells. not that it cant function as a combatant or primary caster, but the roles can be a little hard to juggle

    at HIGH levels, or at least past L13, the clerics is no longer the primary healer. the cleric is now the primary combat caster, secondary healer. with destruction, you can instant kill a mob, dead mob = no damage = no heals. blade barriers do persistant 300 points damage (or at least on my cleric), 550 on a crit. with these numbers, melees can take a step back and let me deal the pain. since only i have agro, i dun need to heal the party, again healing is secondary. the host of other spells like cometfall and greater command can make my melee abilities shine. when the mobs are sitting on the ground, they cant fight back and again, no damage = no heals. healing for a high level cleric is the last of priority. the main priority is to mitigate damage and the way to do it is to be the primary combat caster.

    you my friend if you play like how you described is very linear and ineffective
    If you want to know why...

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    Truly awesome uber clericness! Why spend ur game time living for the 5 other red bars when you can do so much more. Oh, and it is my opinion that a bard is a buffer, not always a cleric. cleric's heal.....just not stupidity.
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    I would have to agree with OP. If you need the cleric to be there for you then maybe you should have chosen a different character build.

    Should not have to heal for the following reasons...

    Rogues-- you are given evasion, sneak attack for a reason. If you go up and fight face to face you are not being a rogue, roll a barbarian.

    Ranger-- you are given ranged abilities. If you are up face to face then roll a barbarian.

    Fighter-- if you need to be healed and need resists to stay alive, well then you should roll a palidan.

    Caster-- if you can't kill quick enough to not get hit then you may want to think about not casting, or stick to CC or reroll (to whatever cause caster is not for you)

    Bard-- if you can't handle fighting just sign those songs you are given.

    Barabarian-- you are given the opportunity to have lots of HP and AC, if you can't make it to next shrine then maybe you should think about taking up signing.

    Clerics are not here to keep players alive so that they can do what they wish. I read about teamwork and being part of the team, however, if you can't take care of your own then how are you going to be helpful to the team?

    There may be some people that don't realize that there are players that can do all this by themselves. If you find you can't maybe thats why you want a team because you need it, just remember they don't. Do you really want to have to rely on others and be forced to group to get anything done? Sometimes people should be happy that the are allowed in a group with the people that can solo most everything. So if you get in a group with someone like the OP, maybe just sit back relax learn form them and listen to what they tell you to do, you are there as a guest to there quest.

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    Humour is Good

    People who take this seriously, Bad

    People who take this seriously and agree with the substance of Altar's post, even worse

    People who still fail to understand the purpose of Working together politely in DDO, need to be Rehabilitated

    More Fun Please and LESS of the me Factor makes a better game to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raegoul View Post
    Humour is Good

    People who take this seriously, Bad

    People who take this seriously and agree with the substance of Altar's post, even worse

    People who still fail to understand the purpose of Working together politely in DDO, need to be Rehabilitated

    More Fun Please and LESS of the me Factor makes a better game to play.
    So True....... but such a buzzkill

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    I think if the group you were in was told ahead of time (before going in the adventure) what kind of tactics you were going to use, so they could have prepared, I think the adventure might have gone off a lot better.

    I think the group might have just gotten angry, or felt betrayed when they assumed (which they shouldn't have; their fault on that) that your cleric symbol meant you were primarily a healer.

    Moral of the story: communication before, and during the adventure FTW.
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