Why are there no Green Steel Bastard Swords?

[Arj]

Devs?

[Angelus_dead]

The obvious reason is that the Bastard Sword is a sucky weapon, which no DDO player uses unless he values appearance over utility, or unless he's so bad at math he can't tell it's inferior to weapons which don't require a feat.

However, that logic is undercut by the existence of a Green Steel Great Crossbow. But maybe they only had so many spaces in their pattern of crafting green steel items, and since they had already included one worthless exotic weapon, they didn't have room for another.

[Wire_Paladin]

The obvious reason is that the Bastard Sword is a sucky weapon, which no DDO player uses unless he values appearance over utility, or unless he's so bad at math he can't tell it's inferior to weapons which don't require a feat.

Actually its a stucky weapon. I stuck it here, I stuck it there, I stuck it everywhere.

I also would like a green steel Bastard Sword. Perhaps it will be a future upgrade to the green steel longsword.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Just because the Shavarath Lieutenants, Captains, and General are Evil aligned does not make them bastards...

[Tenkari_Rozahas]

Just because the Shavarath Lieutenants, Captains, and General are Evil aligned does not make them bastards...

No, but if they are Chaotic and evil aligned, then you can call them bastards >>

[gpk]

A_D is correct, it is a terrible weapon and not worth the feat for 1-2 points of potentail damage over a longsword. There may have been a very small incentive to use them before because availability was pretty good (ironically becuase most ppl hat em) in the auction house.
Now that you can craft a khopesh with similar properties as any other weapon there is no real reason for green BSes to exist.

[Deriaz]

Now that you can craft a khopesh with similar properties as any other weapon there is no real reason for green BSes to exist.

Except for, y'know, people who don't want to look like everyone else and use a Khopesh. >>

I wouldn't mind using a Green Steel Bastard Sword. Probably the only thing I'd really want to craft, to be honest. That, or a shuriken (Though I don't have the feat for that any longer). :P

-D

[BlueLightBandit]

Just because the Shavarath Lieutenants, Captains, and General are Evil aligned does not make them bastards...

And it also may imply that they don't use Bastard Swords in Shavarrath.

There are a ton of reasons why or why not... expecting a reply from the devs makes about as much sense as beating yourself with a dead horse.

[Draclaud]

I'd MUCH rather see an axe...hand axe, battle, axe, DWARF AXE, great axe...any axe will do...

[Mad_Bombardier]

DWARF AXE

Oh, did you see Dwarves in the Shavarath Invasion? I'm sorry. I must have missed them.

[Sambvca]

Actually its a stucky weapon. I stuck it here, I stuck it there, I stuck it everywhere.
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I used to stick mine into everything - chipmunks, watermelons, then one day, I stuck it into a tree and broke the tip off. Now I need a new one, strong, like my father's.

[Luthen]

It does bother me that we seem to be missing a large part of our item base.

Shields
Rings
Bastard Swords
Scimitar
Rapier
Dwarven Axe
Hand Axe
Great Axe
Battle Axe
Throwing Axe
Throwing Dagger

Still no solid response as to why they didn't add any of this to the game. Certainly above the Great XBow, Maul and so on.

[BlueLightBandit]

It does bother me that we seem to be missing a large part of our item base.
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Still no solid response as to why they didn't add any of this to the game. Certainly above the Great XBow, Maul and so on.

Wow... what we have in the Shroud, is RAID CRAFTING. Name one raid that gives all of those items as named items.

You never asked why there were no great axes in the dragon or named rings from the demon queen... so why are you asking why these aren't in the latest raid?

[Angelus_dead]

You never asked why there were no great axes in the dragon or named rings from the demon queen... so why are you asking why these aren't in the latest raid?

It's very understandable why some categories of items are abscent- armor, shields, rings. Those things just aren't on the menu for this quest, and that's quite fine.

But what isn't understandable is why there is only one of the prefered kinds of melee weapons in there. The list of the top 10 most desired weapons are:
Greataxe, Rapier, Khopesh, Heavy Pick, Dwarf Axe, Light Pick, Kukri, Handaxe, Battleaxe, Scimitar. Yet only khopesh made the cut. I wonder why the bias for a single weapon...

[Boldrin]

My take is.... if they gave us everything now, what would there be to look forward to?? I'm very happy with all my tier 2 items and weapons, and can't wait for a few special tier 3's I'm making.

[elraido]

It's very understandable why some categories of items are abscent- armor, shields, rings. Those things just aren't on the menu for this quest, and that's quite fine.

But what isn't understandable is why there is only one of the prefered kinds of melee weapons in there. The list of the top 10 most desired weapons are:
Greataxe, Rapier, Khopesh, Heavy Pick, Dwarf Axe, Light Pick, Kukri, Handaxe, Battleaxe, Scimitar. Yet only khopesh made the cut. I wonder why the bias for a single weapon...

Because a lot of the other ones could be considered over powered in Green Steel form. The only one on that list that requires a feat is the khopesh...kind of balances.

[TechNoFear]

Also missing H/L picks and H/L repeating crossbows. With axes, that is all the weps my characters prefer to use.

I suppose if Khopeshes had been ignored then the forums would be alight with complaints.

Name one raid that gives all of those items as named items.

Name one named repeater crossbow, let alone a raid loot one.

Name one raid loot pick.

Yet there are a couple of named / raid loot of many of the other weps you can craft.

[QuantumFX]

Name one named repeater crossbow, let alone a raid loot one.

<sarcasm on> But you have Hobble's Crossbow! Why can't you crossbowmen just be happy!!!<sarcasm off>

Name one raid loot pick.

Not a raid weapon but definately the cadillac of heavy picks: Deathnip

Just so you know - I'm not disagreeing that we need some more weapon choices.

[Arj]

Wow, given the self-righteousness of the first reply I'm surprised there were any positive comments in this thread at all! Good on you Angelus - not only did you set me straight by pointing out my obvious inability to play this game, but by aggressively jumping on an innocent and genuine question you provided yet another excellent example of why the forum community is so often accused of being a bunch of elitist wankers.

Anyway, back on topic - devs are you guys looking to expand the list of weapons and items currently available or is this a Mod 7 thing?

[Draclaud]

Wow... what we have in the Shroud, is RAID CRAFTING. Name one raid that gives all of those items as named items.

You never asked why there were no great axes in the dragon or named rings from the demon queen... so why are you asking why these aren't in the latest raid?

No axes anywhere...period...Kinda weak imho