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    Default Why are there no Green Steel Bastard Swords?

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    The obvious reason is that the Bastard Sword is a sucky weapon, which no DDO player uses unless he values appearance over utility, or unless he's so bad at math he can't tell it's inferior to weapons which don't require a feat.

    However, that logic is undercut by the existence of a Green Steel Great Crossbow. But maybe they only had so many spaces in their pattern of crafting green steel items, and since they had already included one worthless exotic weapon, they didn't have room for another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post
    The obvious reason is that the Bastard Sword is a sucky weapon, which no DDO player uses unless he values appearance over utility, or unless he's so bad at math he can't tell it's inferior to weapons which don't require a feat.
    Actually its a stucky weapon. I stuck it here, I stuck it there, I stuck it everywhere.

    I also would like a green steel Bastard Sword. Perhaps it will be a future upgrade to the green steel longsword.

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    Just because the Shavarath Lieutenants, Captains, and General are Evil aligned does not make them bastards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Bombardier View Post
    Just because the Shavarath Lieutenants, Captains, and General are Evil aligned does not make them bastards...
    No, but if they are Chaotic and evil aligned, then you can call them bastards >>
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    A_D is correct, it is a terrible weapon and not worth the feat for 1-2 points of potentail damage over a longsword. There may have been a very small incentive to use them before because availability was pretty good (ironically becuase most ppl hat em) in the auction house.
    Now that you can craft a khopesh with similar properties as any other weapon there is no real reason for green BSes to exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Bombardier View Post
    Just because the Shavarath Lieutenants, Captains, and General are Evil aligned does not make them bastards...
    And it also may imply that they don't use Bastard Swords in Shavarrath.

    There are a ton of reasons why or why not... expecting a reply from the devs makes about as much sense as beating yourself with a dead horse.
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    Default Axe!

    I'd MUCH rather see an axe...hand axe, battle, axe, DWARF AXE, great axe...any axe will do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draclaud View Post
    DWARF AXE
    Oh, did you see Dwarves in the Shavarath Invasion? I'm sorry. I must have missed them.

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    Didn't see any Warhammers/Greatswords either...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpk View Post
    Now that you can craft a khopesh with similar properties as any other weapon there is no real reason for green BSes to exist.
    Except for, y'know, people who don't want to look like everyone else and use a Khopesh. >>

    I wouldn't mind using a Green Steel Bastard Sword. Probably the only thing I'd really want to craft, to be honest. That, or a shuriken (Though I don't have the feat for that any longer). :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Bombardier View Post
    Oh, did you see Dwarves in the Shavarath Invasion? I'm sorry. I must have missed them.
    Should we go through the list and mention the weapons that we didnt see in the invasion or better yet how bout we comment on the rr dwarven axes floating around out there.....just cause they were not used doesnt mean we shouldnt be able to craft them.

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    bastard swords pretty much always been a human weapon in dnd, dont see much reason for it to have anything to do with an outer plane.

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    It does bother me that we seem to be missing a large part of our item base.

    Shields
    Rings
    Bastard Swords
    Scimitar
    Rapier
    Dwarven Axe
    Hand Axe
    Great Axe
    Battle Axe
    Throwing Axe
    Throwing Dagger

    Still no solid response as to why they didn't add any of this to the game. Certainly above the Great XBow, Maul and so on.
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    Well make a longsword which does 1d10 damage and swap the Bastard Sword Proficiency for Weapon Specilization Slashing for an extra 2 damage a swing and Voila! A Greensteel Bastard Sword is born...

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    Well I think the answer is simple. They aren't there because they haven't got around to putting them in yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brshelton View Post
    Well make a longsword which does 1d10 damage and swap the Bastard Sword Proficiency for Weapon Specilization Slashing for an extra 2 damage a swing and Voila! A Greensteel Bastard Sword is born...
    But longsword are so SHORT! Kargon need the extrama big bastard sword until kargon can take monkeygrip and swing around 2 greatswords at once! are an outmarage!

    That said, kargon will wait for silly mod 7 and see what othermer weapamon types get added along with the rumormered kama and stave.... but not any longermer than that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wire Paladin View Post
    Actually its a stucky weapon. I stuck it here, I stuck it there, I stuck it everywhere.
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    I used to stick mine into everything - chipmunks, watermelons, then one day, I stuck it into a tree and broke the tip off. Now I need a new one, strong, like my father's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luthen View Post
    It does bother me that we seem to be missing a large part of our item base.
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    Still no solid response as to why they didn't add any of this to the game. Certainly above the Great XBow, Maul and so on.
    Wow... what we have in the Shroud, is RAID CRAFTING. Name one raid that gives all of those items as named items.

    You never asked why there were no great axes in the dragon or named rings from the demon queen... so why are you asking why these aren't in the latest raid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueLightBandit View Post
    You never asked why there were no great axes in the dragon or named rings from the demon queen... so why are you asking why these aren't in the latest raid?
    It's very understandable why some categories of items are abscent- armor, shields, rings. Those things just aren't on the menu for this quest, and that's quite fine.

    But what isn't understandable is why there is only one of the prefered kinds of melee weapons in there. The list of the top 10 most desired weapons are:
    Greataxe, Rapier, Khopesh, Heavy Pick, Dwarf Axe, Light Pick, Kukri, Handaxe, Battleaxe, Scimitar. Yet only khopesh made the cut. I wonder why the bias for a single weapon...

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