Green Steel Staves!!!

[Feyt]

Can we get green steel staves that can be the equivalent of holding two weapons? It would be nice to be walking around with a staff instead of two weapons....mostly for cosmetic reasons

[Knightrose]

Im gonna guess they left Staves out of crafting because they are technically stronger then say wielding two-kamas. And since Monks are being added...

I consider a staff stronger because it swings much faster then 2 Kamas do.

[Bradik_Losdar]

Why is it that the sturdy staff (greensteel or not) only gets a DR of 2 when defending while two small sticks (sceptres) get 4. Every other 'two handed' weapon gets a DR of 4 - why not staves?? I think someone must have missed this in QA.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Why is it that the sturdy staff (greensteel or not) only gets a DR of 2 when defending while two small sticks (sceptres) get 4. Every other 'two handed' weapon gets a DR of 4 - why not staves?? I think someone must have missed this in QA.

A Greataxe or Greatsword has the same low DR of a staff.

THF/single weapon/unarmed has less DR than TWF, which has less DR than a shield. See Damage Reduction.

[BlueLightBandit]

Why is it that the sturdy staff (greensteel or not) only gets a DR of 2 when defending while two small sticks (sceptres) get 4. Every other 'two handed' weapon gets a DR of 4 - why not staves?? I think someone must have missed this in QA.

Because defending with a weapon is not exactly the same as what the graphic implies. Although I would suspect it has something to do with the concept that defending with two small weapons can be more effective than defending with one large one... but I'm sure somebody's gonna pointlessly argue the opposite.

Oh, and not all staves are sturdy... just to throw another wrench in the fray.

[SneakThief]

Greensteel Staves and Kamas will be creatable in Mod 7, per Eladrin.

[TechNoFear]

Greensteel Staves and Kamas will be creatable in Mod 7, per Eladrin.

Got a link to that? (As I am more interested in hvy picks, rapiers and rpting crossbows.)

[Bradik_Losdar]

A Greataxe or Greatsword has the same low DR of a staff.

Sorry to hijack this thread, but...

Both my greatsword and maul show a DR of 4 while my staff only shows a DR of 2 (and holding two scepters shows a DR of 4). Maybe they changed things with Mod 6. To me a staff should have a DR of 4 as well since it is a large two handed weapon and would actually work as well (or better since its faster) than a greatsword (or maul!) in defensive mode.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Sorry to hijack this thread, but...

Both my greatsword and maul show a DR of 4 while my staff only shows a DR of 2 (and holding two scepters shows a DR of 4). Maybe they changed things with Mod 6. To me a staff should have a DR of 4 as well since it is a large two handed weapon and would actually work as well (or better since its faster) than a greatsword (or maul!) in defensive mode.

Dangit, now I gotta go back and recheck all the DR numbers. Thanks for the headsup (with explanation), Bradik.

Update: I'm not seeing any problems with the Blocking DR display. And I double checked in PvP. My BAB+12 Bard gets DR3 with 2H (checked all: greataxe/maul/staff/greatclub/greatsword/falchion) and DR6 with TWF (2 dwarven axes). Bradik, I'm not sure what the problem is. Are you perhaps testing different characters with different BABs?

[Bradik_Losdar]

Dangit, now I gotta go back and recheck all the DR numbers. Thanks for the headsup (with explanation), Bradik.

Update: I'm not seeing any problems with the Blocking DR display. And I double checked in PvP. My BAB+12 Bard gets DR3 with 2H (checked all: greataxe/maul/staff/greatclub/greatsword/falchion) and DR6 with TWF (2 dwarven axes). Bradik, I'm not sure what the problem is. Are you perhaps testing different characters with different BABs?

Gah! Sorry Mad, apparently I had two characters mixed up. Went and doubled checked my Paladin again. He is indeed getting the same DR with both greatsword and staff. My wizard (because of the lower BAB) is the one getting the DR of 2 with the staff. Although answer me this - my wizzie is getting a DR of 4 with a longbow and yet only a DR of 2 with the staff. He is a high dex build with no other martial enhancements/skills, so this shouldn't have anything to do with BAB (and the DR formulas), correct? Why is he getting twice the DR with the bow?

And to the OP - boy we ran this thread right off the tracks!! Sorry.