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    Default UMD Build Help

    I am looking into creating a new character that is good at fighting but has a high UMD so he can use most items, but I am at a loss as to where to start.

    Any help would be useful.

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    Do you want a pure or multiclass build?
    Do you have a race preference?
    Do you have access to drow?

    Do you want to be a bard or a rogue? If so, it should be fairly easy to do what you want.

    If you don't want to be a bard or a rogue, are you willing to at least take 2 levels of rogue? You'll have to plan carefully, but this has been done successfully a lot.

    Here is one idea (one of my alts). More of an all-purpose combat rogue than a fighter with good UMD:

    Drow, rogue X, paladin 2, fighter 2

    Starting stats:

    STR 12
    DEX 17
    CON 10
    INT 14
    WIS 10
    CHA 16

    feats: weapon finesse, skill focus: UMD, toughness, whatever else you like.

    What can this build do: most of what you expect from a rogue with better saves and some more combat options. Good UMD.

    Problems with this build: low CON and STR for melee. Moderate INT/DEX for drow rogue.

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    I do have access to Drow and don't have an issue with it being multi class. I am more looking at a combat roll, would 2 rogue / 2 pally / rest fighter work for this? If so, I think I would switch out DEX for STR

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    I have a 2 rog/2pally/12 fighter build and really like it. There are some other good combinations that make umd possible on fighters as well.
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    drow 2 rogue/2 paladin/x fighter should work great.

    You just need to make sure you take your first and one of your last levels as rogue (to get good skill point distribution) and that you have enough INT to keep up your ranks in UMD and whatever other skills (jump, intimidate, etc.) you like.

    I'm not sure what would work best for starting stats, but I'd probably want at least 14 CHA, 16 STR, 12 INT, and 12 CON. I'd use one of the character planners to work it out and make sure I was happy with it, but I know a lot of people have done these types of characters successfully.

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    This is what I came up with, going to try tonight as see how it goes, I tried with 3 levels of Pally, to pick up the immunities and did not notice any difference in the overall total except one higher for Reflex and Will saves.


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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.85
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    Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Male
    (12 Fighter \ 2 Paladin \ 2 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 256
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 11
    Will: 9
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    Abilities        (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
    Strength             16                 20                   23
    Dexterity            10                 10                   10
    Constitution         12                 12                   12
    Intelligence         12                 12                   12
    Wisdom               12                 12                   12
    Charisma             16                 16                   17
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
    Balance               4                  4                    4
    Bluff                 3                  3                    3
    Concentration         1                  1                    1
    Diplomacy             3                  3                    3
    Disable Device        5                  9                   10
    Haggle                7                  7                    7
    Heal                  1                  3                    4
    Hide                  4                  4                    4
    Intimidate            3                  3                    3
    Jump                  7                 16                   16
    Listen                1                  1                    3
    Move Silently         0                  0                    0
    Open Lock             4                  8                    9
    Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                1                  1                    1
    Search                5                  5                    7
    Spot                  1                  1                    3
    Swim                  7                 16                   16
    Tumble                n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      7                 22                   25
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+4)
    Skill: Hide (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Swim (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
    Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Paladin Heal I
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Tower Shield Proficiency
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
    Enhancement: Improved Drow Spell Resistence I
    Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Skill: Swim (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Skill: Swim (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
    Enhancement: Improved Drow Spell Resistence II
    Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance II
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Skill: Swim (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Improved Drow Spell Resistence III
    Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance III
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
    
    Level 11 (Fighter)
    Skill: Swim (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost III
    
    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Critical
    
    Level 13 (Fighter)
    Skill: Swim (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV
    
    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Skill: Jump (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy IV
    
    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Skill: Swim (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost IV
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I

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