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    Default Druids & Rangers, Will they get pets?

    As the title says, will they ever get their pets?

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    Rangers have summons, I think that's all they'll get for pets, same for Druids. But that's just my bet on it.

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    I predict druids will get a free summon spell for every spell level, like clerics do a heal spell.

    I also predict we won't see druids for a verrrryyy looooongggg time, if ever.

    Monk-balance and regular content updates will probably keep Codog busy for all of 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegro View Post
    I predict druids will get a free summon spell for every spell level, like clerics do a heal spell.
    That's standard per the SRD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alavatar View Post
    That's standard per the SRD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegro View Post
    I predict druids will get a free summon spell for every spell level, like clerics do a heal spell.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alavatar View Post
    That's standard per the SRD.
    And also completely pointless in DDO.
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    I really doubt many rangers would complain if they had to pick one of the two combat styles. Even if we got nothing in return for it, because to be frank, it's not a big deal and almost all of us already have picked a combat style to focus on anyways. If we got animal companions in exchange for having to pick, I really doubt there would be any substantial outcry. But maybe I'm wrong.

    The only caveat I have to the above statements is that ranged rangers might feel like ranged combat deserves to be buffed if such a change was made. Although, I have a ranged ranger and wouldn't be put off by such a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegro View Post
    I also predict we won't see druids for a verrrryyy looooongggg time, if ever.
    Kate recently said Druids this year. We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dane McArdy View Post
    Kate recently said Druids this year. We shall see.
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    If Druids become a reality we shall need to usher in the best power-gaming class in DnD. Ask any PnP player which class they fear the most...the bunny makers with Dire bear pets. Baleful Polymorph FTW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dane McArdy View Post
    Kate recently said Druids this year. We shall see.

    I hope so! I've now been looking forward to druids for 2 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinwulf View Post
    Rangers have summons, I think that's all they'll get for pets, same for Druids. But that's just my bet on it.
    i think they'll get a clickie summons.....kind like that iron dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasek View Post
    As the title says, will they ever get their pets?
    No reason to believe they will and every reason to believe they won't. Why give druids a familiar when wizards and sorcs dont get theirs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien the First One View Post
    No reason to believe they will and every reason to believe they won't. Why give druids a familiar when wizards and sorcs dont get theirs?
    Didn't Codog say something about holding off on druids until they get the summon issues figured out?

    I guess maybe there's a difference between pets and summons ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorien the First One View Post
    No reason to believe they will and every reason to believe they won't. Why give druids a familiar when wizards and sorcs dont get theirs?
    Or Paladins their mounts (not that they would be usefull in DDO). And honestly I thought Rangers getting both combat styles was in part to make up for missing things (such as the animal companion) while Pallys got the aura, of course if you guys would rather have an animal companion and not have cool things like bow str (which doesn't exist in P&P as an ability) and have to pick one fighting style go ahead and keep trying to get animal companions.

    Seems like they will compensate Druids somehow similar probablly. Haven't really thought about how arcanes are compensated for not having familiars, but if I remmeber correctly past the 1st couple of levels they weren't really that powerfull unless you spent feats to get a more powerfull familiar, and were actually more of a liability upon their death, which happens easily at higher levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvymetal View Post
    Or Paladins their mounts (not that they would be usefull in DDO). And honestly I thought Rangers getting both combat styles was in part to make up for missing things (such as the animal companion) while Pallys got the aura, of course if you guys would rather have an animal companion and not have cool things like bow str (which doesn't exist in P&P as an ability) and have to pick one fighting style go ahead and keep trying to get animal companions.

    Seems like they will compensate Druids somehow similar probablly. Haven't really thought about how arcanes are compensated for not having familiars, but if I remmeber correctly past the 1st couple of levels they weren't really that powerfull unless you spent feats to get a more powerfull familiar, and were actually more of a liability upon their death, which happens easily at higher levels.
    Rangers likely get both combat styles because it would be a lot of work to devise a system to make them choose one style over another. And at this point turbine likely feels that it would cause more harm then good to change it, even though they should.

    For rangers an animal companion isnt all that useful in high level combat like what we see every day as an animal companion for a ranger is like a level 10 fighter. A druids companion, however, is roughly like a balanced level 20 pnp fighter without any extra items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turial View Post
    Rangers likely get both combat styles because it would be a lot of work to devise a system to make them choose one style over another.
    The ability to select between a subset of "feats" has been in place since launch.

    Wizards choose a metamagic feat at 1st, 5th, 10th (and now 15th). And rangers choose a favored enemy at the same levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvymetal View Post
    Or Paladins their mounts (not that they would be usefull in DDO). And honestly I thought Rangers getting both combat styles was in part to make up for missing things (such as the animal companion) while Pallys got the aura, of course if you guys would rather have an animal companion and not have cool things like bow str (which doesn't exist in P&P as an ability) and have to pick one fighting style go ahead and keep trying to get animal companions.

    Seems like they will compensate Druids somehow similar probablly. Haven't really thought about how arcanes are compensated for not having familiars, but if I remmeber correctly past the 1st couple of levels they weren't really that powerfull unless you spent feats to get a more powerfull familiar, and were actually more of a liability upon their death, which happens easily at higher levels.
    I was actually thinking about this but I think they should make a horse that can be summoned in wilderness areas. I mean it wouldn't be that be of an imbalance game wise and maybe the paladins would feel like they could solo a little easier in the slayer areas.

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    The ability to select between a subset of "feats" has been in place since launch.

    Wizards choose a metamagic feat at 1st, 5th, 10th (and now 15th). And rangers choose a favored enemy at the same levels.
    Which leads me to believe the devs will never make ranged combat equal to ranged in DnD so they continue to give rangers that nice little nugget of a peace offering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTheurge View Post
    The ability to select between a subset of "feats" has been in place since launch.

    Wizards choose a metamagic feat at 1st, 5th, 10th (and now 15th). And rangers choose a favored enemy at the same levels.
    Yes but can that subset selection process be used to give only line of feats and not another. I.e. does it allow for taking rapid shot at level x to make it so you cant choose two-weapon fighting line choice b at a later combat line choice point?

    Metas for wizards and favored enemies for rangers are a grouping of feats rather then a line of feats. It seems like making one line of combat make another line not available would require a flagging of the feats that isn't in the system at the moment.
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