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    At 16, my sorc when using Level 6 spells has +25 with a spell pen VI item (+2 to yer SP).

    I thought I was doing ok with this but running Rainbow on hard and I kept being blocked, the one roll I paid attention to
    was a 13, so the Orthons in there have a SR of 39+? Seems a tad excessive to me.

    Whats your SP and how do you get it to that?
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    Spell Penetration of 19 on Cowtech

    16 from sorcerer levels
    3 from enhancements
    +2 on level 7 or less spells when I feel the need to go higher
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    the best you can get right now is

    16 from levels
    2 from spell penetration feat
    2 from greater spell penetration feat
    3 from enhancements

    that is 23 then it depends on what item you are carrying for lvl 7 spells I think the best we have seen is spell penetration 7 which is another +2. the torque of Rayium is Greater SP 6

    so 25 for lvl 7 spells
    and 26 for lvl 6 spells
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkoHighStar View Post
    the best you can get right now is

    16 from levels
    2 from spell penetration feat
    2 from greater spell penetration feat
    3 from enhancements
    3 from greater spell penetration item

    that is 26 then it depends on what item you are carrying for lvl 7 spells I think the best we have seen is spell penetration 7 which is another +2. the torque of Rayium is Greater SP 6

    so 25 for lvl 7 spells
    and 26 for lvl 6 spells
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghoste View Post
    Added some more in red.
    read the text below where I talk about the items to bring it to 26. Items should never be counted in base values as not everyone has them. Feats and enhancements can be had by all if they so choose. Have you seen greater spell penetration items yet for lvl 7?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkoHighStar View Post
    the best you can get right now is

    16 from levels
    2 from spell penetration feat
    2 from greater spell penetration feat
    3 from enhancements

    that is 23 then it depends on what item you are carrying for lvl 7 spells I think the best we have seen is spell penetration 7 which is another +2. the torque of Rayium is Greater SP 6

    so 25 for lvl 7 spells
    and 26 for lvl 6 spells
    So the only thing I can do for my lvl7 spells is a greater spell pen VII item, which, like you say is either very rare or doesnt even exist. Does Davey "F'ing" Crockett have one? That should answer whether they exist or not.

    So I have a real nice Spell Pen then, yet it seems it means very little to the Orthons at least.
    I did notice I can get throo the Vale Lions SR on a +1 though *sigh*
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    Mine is currently a +24. However, I am still a whimpy level 15 (sorc). As follows:

    Caster Level: +15
    With the Blue Dragonscale Robe (Spell Pen 7): +2 = +17
    With the Feats (SP and GSP): +2 +2 = +21
    With the max enhancements (ISP 1, 2, 3): +1 +1 +1 = +24

    Not sure how close DDO is following the d20 SRD stats and such on these mobs (and I'm at work, so I can't pull out any 3.5 manuals), but as an example the d20 SRD has the various devils listed as having SR in the ranges of 17 - 32 (32 being a Pit Fiend).

    I actually haven't spent much time at all in the new content, so I really can't comment on any in-game numbers. The only one I recall taking note of was in the explorer area, as follows:

    (Combat): You roll to see if your spell penetrates Bezekira's spell resistance. You roll a 2 (+24): spell resistance success!
    (Combat): You hit Bezekira with Banishment.
    (Combat): You killed Bezekira.


    Bezekira (again according to the d20 SRD) have SR 19. So even an awful roll like that (a "2"!?!?!..jeesh), things went ok.

    Again, I have no idea how close DDO and these are...they are obviously a tad off on the hp/HD of these critters...plus there's the normal/hard/elite thing....not sure.

    Anyway, mine is 24, for now. That may change depending on results I see once I really get into the new stuff.
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    16 + 2 feat + 3 enhance + 2 item = 23. Considering dropping Quicken for Greater Spell Pen.
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    my wizard hits 24 both feats and 2 enhancements, saving last action points to bring it up to 25 when I hit rank 3 on lvl 16
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkoHighStar View Post
    the best you can get right now is

    16 from levels
    2 from spell penetration feat
    2 from greater spell penetration feat
    3 from enhancements

    that is 23 then it depends on what item you are carrying for lvl 7 spells I think the best we have seen is spell penetration 7 which is another +2. the torque of Rayium is Greater SP 6

    so 25 for lvl 7 spells
    and 26 for lvl 6 spells
    ditto for my sorc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMage View Post
    16 + 2 feat + 3 enhance + 2 item = 23. Considering dropping Quicken for Greater Spell Pen.
    That's when those pesky Human builds come handy. You get that extra feat to play with

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    I have found the SR values seam to be very close to the PnP number for NORMAL they go up after that.

    For mod 6 i swaped MT/IMT for Spell pen/GTR spell pen, and have +23 base & normaly have a spell pen 7 item equiped for +25.
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