I get it now.

[Kronik]

Even with 30% striders on or haste, it still feels like I'm running slower then eveyone else.

You need to get the dragonmark and 30% striders. I did and am usually running in the front with the zerging tanks! Better Shield up though, cause it can get messy in the front lines.

[Ringos]

Was that group forming on all servers last night. I swear that is so much like one I saw on Sarlona when on my 8th Cleric that it is scary. Delaras will be fun with her, but man, that group looking for a cleric and only a cleric sure had sink written all over it.

I will join pugs if it is a quest I know I could solo on normal with my Cleric. More warm bodies should make it work on Hard or even Elite.

Good point on the solo thing. Sometimes it's easier on the Cleric if you short-man a quest since he/she has to worry about less people doing there own thing or causing more bad guys to attack the party than you really want.

[QuixoticDan]

Yes, three things that everyone should do;
1) Solo three quests with their main (one on normal/one on hard/one on elite)
2) Play a rogue for half of the cap
3) Play a cleric for half of the cap

I'll add to the list as classes get unbalanced, but I don't see a significant play change with DPS/AC fighters or DPS mages.

1) Done quests on normal, fail all the time in hard and elite.
2) Almost
3) Done it

To the OP, I know what you mean. I pretty much only PuG because of my really odd playing hours. I usually hit pretty sensible groups, and I'm learning the balance between heals and CC (Khaz is a 22 WIS/18 CHA/10 everything else support n00b) so I don't fall back on wanding that much. The simple fact is, with a low-level cleric main, I gots no money, so I usually have to like the people in a PuG as people before I'll crank out the scrolls (on the weeks I can afford them ).

And to your list of statements, I've said them all out loud as I play (no mic, so my party was spared). I'll especially agree on the "Where are you going" one, for that one zerger who always manages to infiltrate my decent PuGs. They always run off where you have to pull up your map just to find the blue dot--it's especially bad in explorer areas--and then their health starts to drop. That's when I automatically target them and pop a heal, restoring myself from full health to full health and usually bruising my forehead (from the self-smacking). In their defense (most of them), they don't wander off and then shout for heals.

[JaeBeam]

That's when I automatically target them and pop a heal, restoring myself from full health to full health

I hate that.

[Zenako]

Originally Posted by QuixoticDan
That's when I automatically target them and pop a heal, restoring myself from full health to full health

I hate that.

You know, that is why clerics don't die as much...kinda a self protective reflex action. Too bad we can't store extra for when we need it....

[CrazySamaritan]

1) Done quests on normal, fail all the time in hard and elite.

You make the effort, which is a mark in your favor.
(hint: try missing ward at third/fourth level)


I honestly believe that a party of solo-only players is better than even a static group. The skill needed to complete quests on elite, even hard, mean that you know what you can handle yourself, and if the group stays to that max, you'll breeze through it, even elite.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Been stated a bajillion times before, being a cleric at low to mid levels is not fun. But once you get past those painful levels you get to own everything and everyone.

Oh as for people running off before you buff, do like I do and dont buff. I have Death Ward - Mass at 16 because, well, I dont need a cat that claws midair.

[Yaga_Nub]

I know! My L16 has 30% striders and still runs slower than anyone else in the party.

QFT

[Heladron]

Ninja cleric'ing rules. I run anonymous on both my clerics so I can scan for the stuff I want to run. Cleric's can be an gravy train to XP ville if you pick your groups carefully or group with guildies whenever you can.

Remember, parties don't know what kind of inventory you have so if the group is not playing smart, don't break out your goods to waste on them. When mana is out it's out. I only use my supplies on groups that are playing well or if the group is so fun to be in that even if I go broke it was worth it to be around fun people.

[Velorn]

Ninja cleric'ing rules. I run anonymous on both my clerics so I can scan for the stuff I want to run. Cleric's can be an gravy train to XP ville if you pick your groups carefully or group with guildies whenever you can.

Remember, parties don't know what kind of inventory you have so if the group is not playing smart, don't break out your goods to waste on them. When mana is out it's out. I only use my supplies on groups that are playing well or if the group is so fun to be in that even if I go broke it was worth it to be around fun people.

Ya, I'm thinking along these lines as well.

To everyone, this thread has been a lot of fun to read. Thanks for all your input. Knowing that I will be slower than most is OK with me....just a little revamping. Expedious Retreat clickie....hmmmm. Off to rummage through my bank accounts.

I have a feeling that my lowbee cleric won't be low for long with the upcoming week of +25% XP.

[Hvymetal]

Ninja cleric'ing rules. I run anonymous on both my clerics so I can scan for the stuff I want to run. Cleric's can be an gravy train to XP ville if you pick your groups carefully or group with guildies whenever you can.

Remember, parties don't know what kind of inventory you have so if the group is not playing smart, don't break out your goods to waste on them. When mana is out it's out. I only use my supplies on groups that are playing well or if the group is so fun to be in that even if I go broke it was worth it to be around fun people.

Reminds me of a group I got into doing sc today I join this human Barbs group, there's two of em so far a Human and a Elven Barb, I am on my new WF Barb and am thinking well at least things will die really fast.... We then add a dwarven Barb (when they show up I notice that they are guildies), and I think to myself ohh ohh, if I was on my Cleric I probablly wouldn't go anywhere near this group. I ended up switching to my Rogue (they wanted the chests I guess), we got a sorc and they then picked up a Cleric.

Just reading about groups you wouldn't touched reminded me of a group I was in today