Price Check: Crafting Ingredients

[sirgog]

Due to the determination of many posters below to derail this thread and talk about things that are irrelevant to the topic, I'm asking the moderators to close and/or delete it. May post another thread later to find out genuine prices on these ingredients.




Looking for a price check on the following (as the prices on the AH are clearly insane)


Fecundity Tier 1 ingredients (e.g. Chipmunk Funk)

Green Steel Blanks

Invasion Tier 1 ingredients (e.g. Small Devil Scales)

Subjugation Tier 1 ingredients (e.g. Medium Sulfurous Stone)

Devastation Tier 1 ingredients (e.g. Large Glowing Arrowhead)



My guesses, based on rarity, are something of the order 10k PP for Fecundity and Subjugation Tier 1s, 20k PP for Invasion Tier 1, 125k PP for green steel blanks, and probably about 50k PP for Devastation Tier 1 ingredients.

[walsh]

i think your prices are reasonable and will buy your large arrowhead for 50 k

[sirgog]

Don't have any large ingredients, just gave the example to clarify exactly what I'm talking about (i.e. as opposed to other tiers of Devastation-only items like Superior Focus of Water)

[Ninety]

anything new is going to be priced high... if the AH is to costly for ya... just keep running everything until you get the ingredients.

[sirgog]

anything new is going to be priced high... if the AH is to costly for ya... just keep running everything until you get the ingredients.

The AH prices don't reflect real value on these at all. People are trying to flog off items you can buy from the vendor in part 3 for 100k-500kPP. I'm trying to establish real value, not the prices that people (opportunists or plat farmers) are putting up in the hope someone gets sucked into buying them.

It's no different to the people that post a **** item like a +3 lesser fire guard of moderate fortification heavy shield for 25kPP buyout - that item isn't worth that just because that's the AH price.

[Boldrin]

REAL value is what it's worth to you. Your prices are about what they'd be worth to me.

[Shaamis]

anything new is going to be priced high... if the AH is to costly for ya... just keep running everything until you get the ingredients.

QFT, and you might get good stuff also, along the way

ran Vale quests the other night for ingredients, picked up a +2 vorpal handaxe of righteousness in the last chest of "running with the devils"

it's all in the luck of the draw.

[sirgog]

It's more out of interest at the moment (I have crafted the item I most seek at the moment save the third upgrade which I won't try for until I have a guild group or solid prearranged non-guild group that's up to the task of killing Arrietrikos).

[vodin]

One way to fix auctions and plat farmers would be to charge the person 10% right off the get go of whatever the buyout price or bid price would be (which ever higher).

I dont think you would see a 12,000,000 auction for the most part ever again and would bring auction in check.

IMO--No item in the game is worth more than 2-3mil gold...and thats the real rare items but why not post for millions when it costs nothing to do so.

PPl who plat farm this way hurt the game because i was rdy to quit myself until i realized some ppl are realistic with auctions ya just need to sift through the pages and be patient.

hope this made sense because it 5am

Ariok/Mirgazli on khyber

[Aranticus]

do you know the buyer is charged 30% of the price the item sold for? ie you sell a tome for 90k pp, you get back 63k pp. you are also charged a fee when you post an item. if you set a high fee, no one will put it on the AH. they'll just spam trade messages in general chat. that i do not wish to see. its already bad seeing players spam it with item trades. imagine the ruckus should everyone hawk their wares.

[vodin]

if you charged up front you take away the 30% charge at end and minor charge at start..

Just one charge at start of auction 10% of listing.

Personally anyone that would have a problem with that i would say is a plat farmer because i would have no problem paying to post a 1mil +3 vorpal.

Again there would be nomore 100,000 for a gold coin or 18,000,000 for a bloodstone (1,800,000 listing fee would stop this) and game balance would be restored

If it went to LFM's then the DEV's would have to make that a rule that only groups are allowed to LFM and you can be punished if causght using LFM incorrdctly.

ariok/mirgazli

[Aranticus]

if you charged up front you take away the 30% charge at end and minor charge at start..

Just one charge at start of auction 10% of listing.

Personally anyone that would have a problem with that i would say is a plat farmer because i would have no problem paying to post a 1mil +3 vorpal.

Again there would be nomore 100,000 for a gold coin or 18,000,000 for a bloodstone (1,800,000 listing fee would stop this) and game balance would be restored

If it went to LFM's then the DEV's would have to make that a rule that only groups are allowed to LFM and you can be punished if causght using LFM incorrdctly.

ariok/mirgazli

a plat farmer will have no problem as they are not affect as much. posting a vorpal on the AH, they'll rather post it in their own websites and sell it for real cash. go look into their sites. who is being affected by your proposal? the players

ps lfm trading is already not allowed and players who flout it can be baned for 3 days for 1st offence. but that doesnt stop some from posting trades on lfm

[brshelton]

if you charged up front you take away the 30% charge at end and minor charge at start..

Just one charge at start of auction 10% of listing.

Personally anyone that would have a problem with that i would say is a plat farmer because i would have no problem paying to post a 1mil +3 vorpal.

Again there would be nomore 100,000 for a gold coin or 18,000,000 for a bloodstone (1,800,000 listing fee would stop this) and game balance would be restored

If it went to LFM's then the DEV's would have to make that a rule that only groups are allowed to LFM and you can be punished if causght using LFM incorrdctly.

ariok/mirgazli

that rule is in place I know from experience LFM trading gets you a ban

[Ladywolf]

i'll buy 1 twig if anyone wants to sell one

[vodin]

The funny thing is I dont see why you would be against my idea it is approx 20+% cheaper than it is now.

Like you said now we pay 30% of end price and a list fee

My idea would be a 10% only.

Sounds to me like you want to post 20,000,000 tomes?

Ariok/Mirgazli

[Aranticus]

The funny thing is I dont see why you would be against my idea it is approx 20+% cheaper than it is now.

Like you said now we pay 30% of end price and a list fee

My idea would be a 10% only.

Sounds to me like you want to post 20,000,000 tomes?

Ariok/Mirgazli

if you are rich, then an upfront 10% isnt a problem. but if you are the new player who just stuck gold in giant caves and want to get some plat, that 10% is gonna hurt you. while your idea would be less at the end, its certainly much more expensive at the start. why penalise the players who cannot afford it?

sounds to me like you want to buy things off the AH for cheap?

[Ninety]

okay so since 1 or maybe 2 since you posted this, don't believe those are priced correctly, they aren't sane? Everyone that puts items for higher than you think they are work are delusional?

I put items in the AH to make plat, not to give you a good deal.

[arrrcher]

to paraphrase the great george carlin: everyone driving slower than you is a grandma, everyone driving faster is a maniac.

in otherwords: those selling lower are fools, those selling higher are plat farmers?

[arrrcher]

if you are rich, then an upfront 10% isnt a problem. but if you are the new player who just stuck gold in giant caves and want to get some plat, that 10% is gonna hurt you.

indeed!

I would not want an item to sit in the bank for weeks or months because I was lucky enough to pull it but unlucky enough to have no plat to post it on the AH.

[SneakThief]

Looking for a price check on the following (as the prices on the AH are clearly insane)

Fecundity Tier 1 ingredients (e.g. Chipmunk Funk)

Green Steel Blanks

Invasion Tier 1 ingredients (e.g. Small Devil Scales)

Subjugation Tier 1 ingredients (e.g. Medium Sulfurous Stone)

Devastation Tier 1 ingredients (e.g. Large Glowing Arrowhead)

My guesses, based on rarity, are something of the order 10k PP for Fecundity and Subjugation Tier 1s, 20k PP for Invasion Tier 1, 125k PP for green steel blanks, and probably about 50k PP for Devastation Tier 1 ingredients.

I might go lower on the raw ingridients for Fecundity and Subjigation. What were you thinking for manufactured stuff already (4 raws + power cell), like a value meal sort of deal? Get the power cell (drink) for free?