Rainbow in the Dark - Trap Puzzle Solves

[Mad_Bombardier]

They know Binary in Eberron?

The Warforged do.

[aldan]

I bet the DEVS are having a good chuckle about the chest. This will go down as a legend kind of like using diplomacy and eagles splendor to get better loot.

I am starting to feel its a red herring and meant to be a time sink. But not willing to throw the towel yet.

[SneakThief]

Not really -- I've done many flash games that completely randomized things. It was just sheer luck whether or not you would win. Figure, you have 6 gears, very easy to just randomly select an order not based on anything. Granted, I want there to be a solution because I love loot, I'm just saying there doesn't have to be!

Well, I didn't say everything was programmed with a solution, and technically speaking there is no "random" on a computer, just a really close facsimile. I was speaking more in reference to programming. Any problem always has a solution. Even debugging the OS, every problem has a logical solution. Programmers tend to think that way. They tend to like things with neat tidy logical solutions. "Be the spoon" to programmers just gets interpreted as OO polymorphism

[oronisi]

The reading may not be about decoding but about a fixed match. So if the rainbow is lit say 1, 3, 6 then the gears are always x,y,z; If the rainbow is 2, 4 ,7 then the gears are a, b, c. No way to decode it but trial and error. But once you know the match then it’s constant. I’d like to see posts of what the rainbow tiles are and the correct solution. Then we could test if when the tiles are that way if that solution always works.

I actually think the rainbow puzzle is randomly lit to keep the numbers peons that turn every simple puzzle into an even simpler number solution from being able to do that. You have other puzzles where honestly, how hard is it to memorize the runes? But instead, we have people saying 'turn each 4 times and the yellow 6' or whatever that one is. So instead of being able to say '1 2 3 4 5 6 7, left to right', they have to make the rainbow go red to purple.

[SkyCry]

I actually think the rainbow puzzle is randomly lit to keep the numbers peons that turn every simple puzzle into an even simpler number solution from being able to do that. You have other puzzles where honestly, how hard is it to memorize the runes? But instead, we have people saying 'turn each 4 times and the yellow 6' or whatever that one is. So instead of being able to say '1 2 3 4 5 6 7, left to right', they have to make the rainbow go red to purple.

While that's possible, it's highly unlikely. I mean it's one of the easiest puzzles in the game. It's not really a puzzle, there's no thinking involved, even no remembering of signs from the other side of the quest involved. The only problem with this puzzle is you have to scream at other people not to step on the tiles, when they're saying "I'm sure this has to be green", while it has to be purple.

And even if it was an attempt to randomize it, why do the tiles only ever glow red? Why not some random color combination? This is all too suspicious.

[Eldorudo]

I bet the DEVS are having a good chuckle about the chest. This will go down as a legend kind of like using diplomacy and eagles splendor to get better loot.

*Pulls up a chair and readies a large bag of popcorn*

Oh, pay me no mind. Continue, please.

[SkyCry]

*Pulls up a chair and readies a large bag of popcorn*

Oh, pay me no mind. Continue, please.

That won't work on us. We will figure it out, even if it takes breaking your random number generator!!

[bigal4458]

*Pulls up a chair and readies a large bag of popcorn*

Oh, pay me no mind. Continue, please.

A tad bit early to be patronizing your players don't you think?

[DemonMage]

There's nothing patronizing about being amused by the efforts of people to solve something you implemented. In fact, it's half the point of coming up with something random or tricky: watching how people try to find ways around it.

[cryptic]

*Pulls up a chair and readies a large bag of popcorn*

Oh, pay me no mind. Continue, please.

ya, i would want a front row seat too, when we crack this safe.


Latch will not let some combanation lock deny him of a steady source of income, lol

[Ironforge_Clan]

Okay people ignore the DEV and lets start posting data again. Please remember to post difficulty, rainbow tiles lit up (from stairs left to right), whether or not you disable the lightning traps (although I think we shouldn't since this seems to be a very good indicator), and number sequence of lever pulls.

[Cowboy]

before this post was started we had tried all 6 members pull a gear at same time gate opened now not sure if it was due to the server client lag that we got the timing of each gear right or just luck, lol do know it worked once havnt tried since

[cryptic]

before this post was started we had tried all 6 members pull a gear at same time gate opened now not sure if it was due to the server client lag that we got the timing of each gear right or just luck, lol do know it worked once havnt tried since

a good way to have a count off, without the voice lag for trying this, would to have everyone target a gear and one person sheild block 3 times and as they come out of the last sheild block everyone click on their use icon.

[cryptic]

rainbow tiles lit up (from stairs left to right),

we need to know what they are before the floor drops,

not sure if they change once you turn gears

[Ironforge_Clan]

we need to know what they are before the floor drops,

not sure if they change once you turn gears

I am presuming that the trap is done last after the quest is finished if that helps explain what I meant.

[Missing_Minds]

*Pulls up a chair and readies a large bag of popcorn*

Oh, pay me no mind. Continue, please.

*chuckles* Don't suppose you'll tell them after a month or so of them trying, if there are clues to solve it or not.

[ccheath776]

ok maybe its just the challenge aspect but what reward would you expect even if you did solve it?

Maybe bragging rights.
but what else other than that. Not much.

Oh well, keep trying I guess.

[Heladron]

It's random. Which is why Eladrin posted (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=16) "When you figure it out, be sure to let me know." -- there's nothing to figure out, either you get lucky or you don't.

there's no such thing as random in a computer. It's mathematical and if some of the better math people playing the game start piecing together they can crack to code. I know, I watch Numbers on TV. It's super easy for math people to solve all the worlds problems.

[Heladron]

a good way to have a count off, without the voice lag for trying this, would to have everyone target a gear and one person sheild block 3 times and as they come out of the last sheild block everyone click on their use icon.

I like this idea, but the keyboard provides more reliable input since a mouse click probably takes slightly longer. I would use this technique and have everyone use the use key on their keyboard for a more predictable result.

[Thrust]

I haven't read all of the posts in the thread, so I may have missed it. Maybe the order is dependent on the current time? Of course, if it is based on the current milli-second we are still screwed...

-Phil