Please Increase Drop Rate of Khyber Dragonshards

[Snoggy]

I've gotten 3. From a breakable in the Wizard King quest. That's right, 3. That brings my total to 0 from the vale. 0 from the quests in the vale. 0 from any Gianthold quests. And 3 from a breakable in a desert quest.

So far their "common" drop rate hasn't impressed me.

[Grimtooth333]

They drop in the hundreds on higher level content and raids.

I was running those... still got none. The 5 new vale quests, Reaver, Tor, Pop, TBF, the lot. Nada, zilch, zip.

Hardly 'common drops that can be aquired through normal questing' as was advertised.

[Turial]

Remember guys as the essence relates to crafting the trap the soul spell and the drop rates on the items needed to power it are likely a high end bottle neck to slow down the production of the highest end of equipment in the game.

[Rindalathar]

I'd like to make a distinction between those fragments needed for Trap the Soul and those needed for binding purposes. It's the binding fragments drop rate that I'm concerned about. I would happily bind nearly all of my gear...if I could. I thought I would be given a choice. If you're going to change the death mechanic in one day to a system, in where, people are supposed to choose the aspect of the system that works best for them, then tie it to random loot drops, to deny or limit choice, that's where I have a problem.

Bottom line, a dev was quoted as saying "commonly" regarding fragment drop rate. No one complains about the amount of coins that drop in breakables...why?...because they commonly drop. Regardless of what your particular drop rate has been thus far, it's still too low to claim "commonly"...period.

[Gornin]

Haven't seen any either.

[Angelus_dead]

I'd like to make a distinction between those fragments needed for Trap the Soul and those needed for binding purposes. It's the binding fragments drop rate that I'm concerned about. I would happily bind nearly all of my gear...if I could.

It's not hard to get enough to bind your gear. You must not be trying much. Remember, you can bind 25 items with the fragments it would take to cast the MEDIUM power Trap The Soul even once.

Probably, if Trap the Soul didn't demand SO MANY khyber fragments, then wizards wouldn't be hoarding them and buying them for high prices, and you'd have an easier time obtaining them for yourself.

[Jolani]

It takes ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND, thats 100,000 fragments to get 10 components for the highest end spell. I have found 4000 in 5 days of running the new content exclusively. You should not have to farm for weeks to be able to cast a spell ten times. Make it cost 10,000 gold per component, I'd MUCH rather pay that.

[Knightrose]

Well it is a random drop rate. Saying I got hundreds (almost 2k atm) and saying you got none merely proves that percentages still work in this universe.

I think point being overlooked (maybe?) with mod6 is that not all aspects of the mod are a 'jump right in and get your feet wet with the best' system. Some things, like crafting are going to take some effort and time. Some understanding and some research. That's a big 'boo-hoo' if it's not your thing. But give it some to develop before you knock it down with hammers. Once recipes start rolling out and information is more common (especially amongst those who do not research it) then you will have a better understanding of what you need, how much you need and how often you can obtain it. Simple really. The answer is: patience.

[Knightrose]

It takes ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND, thats 100,000 fragments to get 10 components for the highest end spell. I have found 4000 in 5 days of running the new content exclusively. You should not have to farm for weeks to be able to cast a spell ten times. Make it cost 10,000 gold per component, I'd MUCH rather pay that.

1k plat per component would be very laughable. You can not compete with plat farmers by using the economy. Never will this work. You will always lose as a developer. The only way to design a system that benefits ONLY the players is one that uses time. It's the only thing they can't farm

[Kaldais]

/signed. They should be as common as arrows and bolts.

[MrSmack]

/signed

I have ran the vale a ton of times .... lots of rares, all the new quests at least several times each
and have only gotten 538 from 1 chest on first day

the 1,000 need for the 10 low lvl trap the soul spell (10HD) are useless unless your running a harbor quest
and the soul stones from the low lvl spell are useless for crafting .... the crafting thing wont accept them
so you will need 10,000 for just 10 medium lvl spells (20HD)
or 100,000 for 10 of the high lvl spell (30HD)
and god forbid they save and you waste a shard

these things are dropping way to little

[Kerr]

Well it is a random drop rate. Saying I got hundreds (almost 2k atm) and saying you got none merely proves that percentages still work in this universe.

The problem is they stated the drop rate would be COMMON. It is definately UNCOMMON if you only have 2,000 tiny fragments and a lot of us none if you need hundreds of thousands of them to cast the higher level spells.

[Missing_Minds]

I've got over 4000, they don't seem rare. I bet in a few weeks they'll be cheap at a settled price on AH.

lucky. I've puled only about 300 kybers myself and only now broke 1000 syber ones. And yes, iv'e been running chests like crazy to find stuff to play with things.

[jkm]

1500 in over 100 chest pulls (tbf, veil, orchard, new quests). just enough to bind some items and make 10 10HD fragments

[MrCow]

About 2800 shards in 72 chest pulls (all in the Vale or the Mod 6 quests) if anyone wants more numbers. My numbers are showing that they drop about the same rate that gems do in chests. Also, the chest does multiple rolls so you could make out with a decent haul from a single chest.

[jkm]

About 2800 shards in 72 chest pulls (all in the Vale or the Mod 6 quests) if anyone wants more numbers. My numbers are showing that they drop about the same rate that gems do in chests. Also, the chest does multiple rolls so you could make out with a decent haul from a single chest.

i think its more like, you have to roll to see if you get gems. if you do, it rolls twice on the gem table which the shards have been added too. so its possible to get:

gems
siberys shards, gems
khyber shards, gems
khyber shards, siberys shards
siberys shards, khyber shards
siberys shards, siberys shards
khyber shards, khyber shards

[Elsbet]

I have yet to see a Khyber shard drop. For anyone.

[MysticRhythms]

And a single cast of the lowest level of soul trap requires 1000 fragments just to make 10 tiny shards.
...

You are talking about a save-or-die spell that works on some of the toughest new monsters in the game. Wizards SHUOLD expect to have to do some questing for the components they need to power their nastiest spells. That's very much in-flavour for this game.

[Anitillian]

agree I hope the increase the drop how ever i would go ahead and loot out merida, before they nerf the chest.

[Laith]

from another thread.

Khyber Shard Fragment drop rates seem to still be too low, and I'm not happy with the Dragon armor situation. Those are very likely to change somehow.