Weekly Dev Activities 1/21/08

[ccheath776]

The attack progress has been adjusted as follows: +0, +0, +5, +10, +10.

What is the modifier right now?

0,0,5,10 seems a little low to me.
And will the mobs get the same nerf?

[akla_thornfist]

can we have a bag bag?

yes can i please get a bag to hold all the bags

[MysticTheurge]

What is the modifier right now?

0,0,5,10 seems a little low to me.
And will the mobs get the same nerf?

That's on top of BAB. It's not a nerf. (And, for the record, I'm pretty sure mobs don't have a progressive attack sequence at all.)

Right now it's +0/+0/+5/+10. At one point it was going to be +0/+0/+5/+10/+15, but they've instead elected to go with +0/+0/+5/+10/+10.

[Kerr]

yes can i please get a bag to hold all the bags

Yes. It's called a Bag of Holding or a Portable Hole. It's slots 4 and 5 in your equipment window.

Honestly I've never seen such whining at something that is helpful before.

[MysticTheurge]

Honestly I've never seen such whining at something that is helpful before.

I think I detected a whiff of irony in the complaints about too many bags and the requests for Bag Bags.

But I could've been wrong.

[Kerr]

I think I detected a whiff of irony in the complaints about too many bags and the requests for Bag Bags.

But I could've been wrong.

Too subtle for me. I prefer the bludgeoning irony that caves in skulls with it's straightforwardness.

[akla_thornfist]

Yes. It's called a Bag of Holding or a Portable Hole. It's slots 4 and 5 in your equipment window.

Honestly I've never seen such whining at something that is helpful before.

i guess your no fun at partys

[Mad_Bombardier]

That's on top of BAB. It's not a nerf.

Right. With BAB+16, it's +16/+16/+21/+26/+26 before all other attack bonuses.

[ccheath776]

That's on top of BAB. It's not a nerf. (And, for the record, I'm pretty sure mobs don't have a progressive attack sequence at all.)

Right now it's +0/+0/+5/+10. At one point it was going to be +0/+0/+5/+10/+15, but they've instead elected to go with +0/+0/+5/+10/+10.

so right now its 0,0,5,10

It will be 0,0,5,10,10 instead of progression to 15

Ok not a nerf then your right.
My question is why did they do it that way?
I mean a +/-5 to a true fighter wont mean much but its still BAB that is lost.
But I guess it doesn't really matter, just have to see how it plays out.
Thanks for the info.

[raypal]

On Risia found a Soul Gem bag for Trap the Soul gems in The Twelve, but no trace of a Spell Component bag anywhere to be found. Is this the component bag in the WDA? If not, I hope a Spell Component bag would let you cast spells while components are in the bag. If not, what's the point? A bag to hold components you have to take out of the bag to use, just takes up another inventory slot. (Crosses fingers and hopes for best)

[Kerr]

i guess your no fun at partys

You haven't seen what I can do with a cherry stem.

[ChildrenofBodom]

QUIVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!1ONE!!!!!O NE111!!!!!!!!!

[Mad_Bombardier]

My question is why did they do it that way?
I mean a +/-5 to a true fighter wont mean much but its still BAB that is lost.

Because further inflating player to-hit bonuses means further inflating mob AC, which means 3/4 BAB classes are screwed and useless at high levels. Capped progressive bonus means full BAB classes get an extra attack, but are not artificially inflated beyond what is achievable by other classes.

[MysticTheurge]

My question is why did they do it that way?

There are a lot of reasons, not the least of which is how it ends up affecting Moderate BAB characters (Clerics, Bards, Rogues, Monks). When Full BAB characters get an extra +5 on top of their already higher BAB, Moderate BAB characters start to end up being unable to hit anything.

[dragnmoon]

You haven't seen what I can do with a cherry stem.

Woah.... 90's flash back...

[Kerr]

Woah.... 90's flash back...

It's TIMELESS.

[Josh]

It should be treated no differently then Veterans day, presidents day or labor day.. it has the same status as those as a Federal holiday..

Not only do I have to work today, but I have to work on Veteran's day also...and I'm a veteran!

Can a brother get a break?

[Gornin]

Not only do I have to work today, but I have to work on Veteran's day also...and I'm a veteran!

Can a brother get a break?

You and me both. Fight the power!

[UtherSRG]

[*]NEW The attack progress has been adjusted as follows: +0, +0, +5, +10, +10. For one handed weapons and dual wielders the 5th attack is the same speed as attack 4 so we are in good shape with them. For two handed weapons, we have added a glancing attack on the fifth attack. If they have superior two handed fighting, that will give them 2 glancing attacks for swing #5.

Hrm..... Considering that pen and paper the attack sequence is only 4 attacks at lvl 20 with a progression from 1st swing BAB of +0, -5, -10, -15 (in reality +20, +15, +10, +5). Why the 5th attack, and why does DDO's sequence go up instead of down? This is especially worrisome to me as a 20th level monk (in pen and paper) has a standard progression of +0, -5, -10 (+15, +10, +5) for their normal attack, and a flurry of +0, +0, +0, -5, -10 (+15, +15, +15, +10, +5). What would this be in DDO?

Yet another example of DDO's number inflation possible making things harder to implement further down the line?

[Turial]

A little off topic but on the subject of bags. So our back pack slots are in reality portable holes. What are the rest of the bags? I would hope not bags of holding. Dont bad things happen when you put bags of holding in portale holes or is it the other way around?