Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[Holgar]

When creating an Imbued Shard of Power, is there a specific order that everything must be placed into the altar?

Focus Ingredient + Gem Ingredient + Essence Ingredient + Shard + Energy Cell

Or is it

Focus Ingredient + Gem Ingredient + Essence Ingredient + Energy Cell + Shard

Or does the order not matter?

Thanks,

Holgar

[tihocan]

When creating an Imbued Shard of Power, is there a specific order that everything must be placed into the altar?

No, order does not matter.

[tihocan]

Little bit of info: I helped someone test an enervation weapon and it appeared to trigger about every 5% hits (measured over about 750 hits). I'll go update the Wiki in a minute with this number.

[vyvy3369]

I checked through my log and had 4 or 5 natural confirmed 20s but only 4 bonus dmg numbers show up. I hit Harry on a 3 or higher so confirming it should not have failed that many times. The way I read the new description of good blast is on a weapon with a wider crit range a crit will do 8d6 but on a confirmed natural 20 it will do 12d6. Since the crit range on the bow for me is 20 only any time I'm confirming a crit it should be doing the full 12d6. Its hard to remember since alot of the time I'm running manyshot and there are so many numbers that its just a red line over his head but I don't remember getting more then 4 +s on anything I have shot at. I'll continue testing but I wanted to see what other peoples experiences are and to have them take a look at their logs to see if they can see ANY blast effect going off.

Its possible that they did not get the code in right and that its so rare to get a confirmed natural 20 that people don't notice it in the middle of battles. I'm mostly just asking people to take a look and see what their experience is.

btw the crit dmg from the arrow was so low because I had run out of silver and was just pinging him with arcane arrows.

While I don't have a good blast weapon, I did compare my acid & acid burst hammer, acid & acid burst & acid blast hammer and good & pure good burst hammer.

Acid & Acid Burst gave Acid Burst damage, Bludgeoning damage, and two sets of Acid damage.
Acid & Acid Burst & Acid Blast gave Acid Blast damage, two sets of Acid Burst damage, Bludgeoning damage, and two sets of Acid damage.
Good & Pure Good Burst gave Good Burst damage, Bludgeoning damage, Holy damage, and Pure Good damage.

Based on that I'd assume a Good & Pure Good Burst & Good Blast would do Good Blast damage, two sets of Good Burst damage, Piercing damage, Holy damage, and Pure Good damage like you thought you should be getting. Your log indicates that you weren't getting the pure good blast first - I'd definitely give it a try on a troll or something out in the vale and see if you get all types. I haven't checked whether the blast goes off vs. Harry or not.

[Arjuna]

Is DUST II still broken?

I will make one but as long as i know it not broke. and yes i poured through the search function and this thread.

looking forward to seeing the special effect.

arjuna

[Zaodon]

5. I assume the +1 armor alchemical bonus to AC would not stack with Armor and Shield (same bonus type)?

No, they will "stack", just like Enhancement bonuses "stack". Note "stack" in quotes. You are mis-understanding how these bonuses actually work.

A Deflection bonus is applied directly to your AC. So, two items with Deflection bonuses don't stack.
However, an Enhancement bonus does not apply to your AC, it applies to the Armor or Shield. That armor or shield then, in turn, applies ITS bonus to your AC as either an Armor Bonus or a Shield Bonus. Two Armor bonuses would not stack, nor would two Shield bonuses.

Likewise, this new "alchemical bonus" is not applied to your AC, its applied to the Armor or Shield.

Example:
Full Plate: Armor Bonus 8.
+1 Full Plate: Armor Bonus 9. (8 + 1 Enhancement Bonus)
+1 Full Plate with Alchem Ritual: Armor Bonus 10 (8 +1 Enhancement Bonus +1 Alchemical bonus)

Heavy Shield: Shield Bonus 2
+1 Heavy Shield: Shield Bonus 3 (2 +1 Enhancement Bonus)
+1 Heavy Shield with Alchem Ritual: Shield Bonus 4 (2 +1 Enhancement Bonus +1 Alchemical Bonus)

Get it?

[Ikuryo]

Did some more testing in shroud on some of the other bosses. We got the kobold cornered so I was able to shoot at him for awhile and check my rolls. Same problem appeared, the dmg log was exactly the same as the one I posted earlier. Its possible that its a problem with good blast since its supposed to be doing a alignment check for the dmg. I'll try and find something neutral I can shoot for awhile and check if I get the blast dmg on it.

Afraid I did not have time to file a bug report since that screen covers most of the interface and just after I finished my testing and started the bug report the casters finished getting sp and we went and kill big red. I'll try and fill one out next time I'm on.

[Wildseed]

Did some more testing in shroud on some of the other bosses. We got the kobold cornered so I was able to shoot at him for awhile and check my rolls. Same problem appeared, the dmg log was exactly the same as the one I posted earlier. Its possible that its a problem with good blast since its supposed to be doing a alignment check for the dmg. I'll try and find something neutral I can shoot for awhile and check if I get the blast dmg on it.

Afraid I did not have time to file a bug report since that screen covers most of the interface and just after I finished my testing and started the bug report the casters finished getting sp and we went and kill big red. I'll try and fill one out next time I'm on.

Perfect place for that is the beginning of shroud, the portals are nuetral... only the good will do red dmg you'll be able to watch it very closely

[stockwizard5]

No, they will "stack", just like Enhancement bonuses "stack". Note "stack" in quotes. You are mis-understanding how these bonuses actually work.

A Deflection bonus is applied directly to your AC. So, two items with Deflection bonuses don't stack.
However, an Enhancement bonus does not apply to your AC, it applies to the Armor or Shield. That armor or shield then, in turn, applies ITS bonus to your AC as either an Armor Bonus or a Shield Bonus. Two Armor bonuses would not stack, nor would two Shield bonuses.

Likewise, this new "alchemical bonus" is not applied to your AC, its applied to the Armor or Shield.

Example:
Full Plate: Armor Bonus 8.
+1 Full Plate: Armor Bonus 9. (8 + 1 Enhancement Bonus)
+1 Full Plate with Alchem Ritual: Armor Bonus 10 (8 +1 Enhancement Bonus +1 Alchemical bonus)

Heavy Shield: Shield Bonus 2
+1 Heavy Shield: Shield Bonus 3 (2 +1 Enhancement Bonus)
+1 Heavy Shield with Alchem Ritual: Shield Bonus 4 (2 +1 Enhancement Bonus +1 Alchemical Bonus)

Get it?

Yup - so basically (if implemented as PnP) a free +2 AC (+1 TWF) - certainly a few orders of magnitude over an extra 1d4 on crits

[Desteria]

Yup - so basically (if implemented as PnP) a free +2 AC (+1 TWF) - certainly a few orders of magnitude over an extra 1d4 on crits

I still reserver it may onyl be +1 Ac it depends exacly how they do it described above or as a direct bonus to AC, readign there current wording it appears to be a modifer it the armor or sheild ie you would net 2 BUT I've learned with any MMO to be carfull how much you read in to the wording untill you see exacly how it works in reality

If you do the math on the 2 dif force damage options, a 3 base criet range weapon + IC break even 1 point per hit and the crit blase when your hittign on a 5 + if you hitting on less then a 5 then the 1 per hit is better damage, if your missing one a 5 and above the crit add is better damage, So for the majority of people in the majority of situations, the 1 point of force should be better, notabel exceptions, Barbs with crit rage, (are there any with out), and 18-20 base crite rage weapons they always win with the burst, OR weapons you ony use against stuff your auto criting, liek say your portal bashers for part 1

[Angelus_dead]

Yup - so basically (if implemented as PnP) a free +2 AC (+1 TWF) - certainly a few orders of magnitude over an extra 1d4 on crits

According to the WDA announcement, it's only +1 AC.

The text says you gain "a +1 alchemical bonus to AC". Alchemical bonuses do not stack.

Furthermore, every character in melee can benefit from more weapon damage. Not everyone would benefit from AC, as they may be too low for it to matter.

[Aspenor]

According to the WDA announcement, it's only +1 AC.

It could be +2 if you put on on your armor, and one on your shield but that's a technicality in the communication here. I think stock was talking about having the bonus on both items.

I think that a 1 damage and 1d4 damage on crits that cannot be resisted is a nice addition to any weapon, also.

[Angelus_dead]

Likewise, this new "alchemical bonus" is not applied to your AC, its applied to the Armor or Shield.

That is the opposite of what is written in the WDA. Do you have some other source of information aside from what was announced?

Here, I will paste the WDA entry below:

# "Alchemical Armor Eldritch Ritual" - Grants armor a +1 alchemical bonus to AC.
# "Alchemical Shield Eldritch Ritual" - Grants your shield a +1 alchemical bonus to AC.

Do you understand the difference between "+1 alchemical bonus to AC" and "+1 alchemical bonus to armor bonus to AC"?

[Venar]

Have a friend caster go out and test the bow with you.
Using Hold Monster or Flesh to stone, you get auto-critics.
This way, you can compare your critics damage VS your pure 20s

[Desteria]

That is the opposite of what is written in the WDA. Do you have some other source of information aside from what was announced?

Here, I will paste the WDA entry below:


Do you understand the difference between "+1 alchemical bonus to AC" and "+1 alchemical bonus to armor bonus to AC"?

ASSUMING they worded it corectlly and that is what they mean not it grats your armor a +1 alc bonus to your AC, I say it;s at least one point and may be 2 but untill I SEE from a dev a SS showing both working or a post specificaly confirming you should get +2 doing both on a sword and board guy OR it goes live and players test it i will not say it will give 2 for sure, I;ve lerned from all MMO's in the past soem times comming features are worded less then perfectly and people expect stuf fthast not the intent.

[Milolyen]

That is the opposite of what is written in the WDA. Do you have some other source of information aside from what was announced?

Here, I will paste the WDA entry below:


Do you understand the difference between "+1 alchemical bonus to AC" and "+1 alchemical bonus to armor bonus to AC"?

I would have to agree with Zaodon because it looks like to me it reads "Grants your ARMOR with a +1 alchemical bonus to ac" and "Grants your SHIELD with a +1 alchemical bonus to ac" so the bonus is given directly to your armor or shield and not to you so in essance it would act like the enhancement bonus. Just as +5 full plate and +5 tower shield = a total of +10 ac from enhancements of the armor and shield I would guess that +1 alch bonus to armor and +1 alch bonus to shield would = a total of +2 ac from alch bonus.

Milolyen

[Mavnimo]

ive been playing with acid blast and shocking blast.

acid blast on a longsword



shocking blast on a bow


so shocking blast is not working. ive filed a bug report in game but would like to see if any of the other blast effects are working

want to add that shocking blast doesn't work on a bow. guildee said that good blast on his maul is working on 20's

[Jefro]

Does shroud item absorbtions stack?

[stockwizard5]

[Cannon]

Friend just tried to make the Bow of soul stealing and he used the following.


neg/escalation/material -Tier1

air/dominion/material -tier2


air/dominion/material and negative/opposition/ethereal -tier 3


He was unable to combine the 2 Supreme Power shards. My explanation to him was that he used different gems on his tier 3 shards (then again he also used 2 different foci). Just wanted to let this know that someone did take the plunge and try ( even though it was by mistake)


Cannon