Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[The_Cataclysm]

If you've been saying it for 30 pages, I'd hope you would have realized by now that Existential Stalemate is NOT a special upgrade. It follows the same as ALL others you have listed:

Fire + Fire = More fire
Lightning + Lightning = super lightning
Existential Stalemate + Existential Stalemate = super existential stalemate with a nifty new name.

Right now the only supposed 'special' upgrades are BoLaS and Tempered.

It's special in that it doesn't fall under para or quasi elementals.

[Kargon]

I still wonder if it's possible to combine two of the same Supreme Shards. Like an Air + Air, to get a Super Air Shard. I'd test it myself (I'm planning on using a second air shard for my next weapon anyway) but I'm still about 20 large ingredients short.

this would not seem to do anymathing even if it worked besides eat one of the shards. even when combine two differmerent elemaments, one shard basicamally gets eaten and just adds somemathing like 'mineral II' which only give upgramades if put onto a 'mineramal I' item/weapamon.

[Sharzade]

And i'm very disappointed I have to back up my statements. I doubt I will contribute to this thread anymore.

Many of us look forward to your discoveries, so don't abandon the crafting thread. You've done superduper Hawt research, and it's much appreciated! So stay, hang in here with us while we figure stuff out. This thread should be fun for everyone, not full of stress. So no more Stressy stuff!!!!! Please stay.

/hearts and flowers,

Sharzade

[Zaodon]

If you've been saying it for 30 pages, I'd hope you would have realized by now that Existential Stalemate is NOT a special upgrade. It follows the same as ALL others you have listed:

Fire + Fire = More fire
Lightning + Lightning = super lightning
Existential Stalemate + Existential Stalemate = super existential stalemate with a nifty new name.

Right now the only supposed 'special' upgrades are BoLaS and Tempered.

No, its a "special" upgrade just like BoLaS and Tempered.

Opposite of BoLas = Tempered
Opposite of Tempered = BoLaS
Opposite of Existential Stalemate = Existential Stalemate

It just so happens that the opposite of Existential Stalemate is Existential Stalemate. Just like the opposite of Infinity is Infinity (so many people think its -Infinity, but that just shows that they don't truly understand what Infinity is.)

[Phaye]

Hey. Made a quick look at the thread (and a search) but didn't found out the answer to my question.

Maybe you can help me:

What will happen if you apply the Mineral II upgrade on a Maul (blunt weapon)?
Obviously it can't be slicing or things like that. Does anyone knows or have a hint?

Thanks

[MysticTheurge]

What will happen if you apply the Mineral II upgrade on a Maul (blunt weapon)?
Obviously it can't be slicing or things like that. Does anyone knows or have a hint?

Word is that it's "impact" (bludgeoning's version of keen) and still, somehow, "slicing."

Maybe it's a pointy maul?

[Zaodon]

Hey. Made a quick look at the thread (and a search) but didn't found out the answer to my question.

Maybe you can help me:

What will happen if you apply the Mineral II upgrade on a Maul (blunt weapon)?
Obviously it can't be slicing or things like that. Does anyone knows or have a hint?

Thanks

Impact instead of Keen.
Still has Slicing. (its like when you get hit by a swinging door and it rips open a cut, I guess?)

[Zaodon]

I may have missed it but, does an Item with Mineral II get the same +80 Durability / +8 Hardness that a weapon does ? (along with +5 Prot and Heavy Fort)

[Wulf_Ratbane]

Word is that it's "impact" (bludgeoning's version of keen) and still, somehow, "slicing."

Maybe it's a pointy maul?

Related question:

Has anybody taken screen shots of the actual graphic used with the various recipes of greensteel base weapons?

[Shade]

[EspyLacopa]

No, its a "special" upgrade just like BoLaS and Tempered.

Opposite of BoLas = Tempered
Opposite of Tempered = BoLaS
Opposite of Existential Stalemate = Existential Stalemate

It just so happens that the opposite of Existential Stalemate is Existential Stalemate. Just like the opposite of Infinity is Infinity (so many people think its -Infinity, but that just shows that they don't truly understand what Infinity is.)

Well, for the sake of arguement, I'd think the opposite of Infinity(Everything) is Ø(Nothing)

[Phaye]

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Thanks very much for answers guys.

[Borror0]

Many of us look forward to your discoveries, so don't abandon the crafting thread. You've done superduper Hawt research, and it's much appreciated! So stay, hang in here with us while we figure stuff out. This thread should be fun for everyone, not full of stress. So no more Stressy stuff!!!!! Please stay.

/hearts and flowers,

Sharzade

Of everyone, I think Sharz said it best. Sorry Raidon, but with everyone speculating that much, we need to know whether or not you're speculating or have some proofs of what you advancing. thanks for explaining the information have, and sorry again.

*Mineral II Green Steel Maul*

So I guess you calculated a maul was more DPS than a greatsword?

[Boulderun]

So I guess you calculated a maul was more DPS than a greatsword?

Faster animation and 17-20/x3 for a barb, I don't doubt it.




(nerf crit rage!)

[Shade]

So I guess you calculated a maul was more DPS than a greatsword?

Not before I made the weapon no, I just prefer x3 crit and mauls.

But since u mentioned it I thought i'd check:
Comparison if I made a GS with same stats, with my characters average Str (46 single madstone) and seeker item (Mentaus Googles +4)

Doesn't factor in the mauls faster speed or greatswords higher glancing blow damage tho. Friend with simililar stats as me and a Greatsword reports 31-32 dmg glancing blows with greatsword vs 29-30 with maul.

[oronisi]

No, its a "special" upgrade just like BoLaS and Tempered.

Opposite of BoLas = Tempered
Opposite of Tempered = BoLaS
Opposite of Existential Stalemate = Existential Stalemate

It just so happens that the opposite of Existential Stalemate is Existential Stalemate. Just like the opposite of Infinity is Infinity (so many people think its -Infinity, but that just shows that they don't truly understand what Infinity is.)

To clarify, I am using the term 'special' in regards to the upgrade path. I think you are using it to refer to the raw combination. As in Positive + Negative is special to you because it's not listed in some DnD book. While I am saying that A+B is completed with (A+B), just like all other non A+A combos.

[binnsr]

No, its a "special" upgrade just like BoLaS and Tempered.

Opposite of BoLas = Tempered
Opposite of Tempered = BoLaS
Opposite of Existential Stalemate = Existential Stalemate

It just so happens that the opposite of Existential Stalemate is Existential Stalemate. Just like the opposite of Infinity is Infinity (so many people think its -Infinity, but that just shows that they don't truly understand what Infinity is.)

Isn't Infinity a car brand? So a (not)Infinity would be anything else? And wouldn't that make the opposite of Existential Stalemate any of the other combos?

ok, now I'm just confused ! why can't we just drive a jeep?

[ColsonJade]

I may have missed it but, does an Item with Mineral II get the same +80 Durability / +8 Hardness that a weapon does ? (along with +5 Prot and Heavy Fort)

Yes.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Related question:

Has anybody taken screen shots of the actual graphic used with the various recipes of greensteel base weapons?

Not sure if this is what you're asking - but I archive most of the weapon and item screenshots on my website here. I only archive tier 2 and 3 items though - not the original 'blank' green steel items...

If you want screenshots of the ingredients themselves - then this rather nifty crafing website seems to have most of them.

Garth

[Zaodon]

Originally Posted by Zaodon
I may have missed it but, does an Item with Mineral II get the same +80 Durability / +8 Hardness that a weapon does ? (along with +5 Prot and Heavy Fort)

Yes.

Gracias.



Oh, random thought:
If Items get "Trap the Soul Guard", that would mean weapons likely get "Trap the Soul" on hit....
Same for Enervation Guard.