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    Quote Originally Posted by juniorpfactors View Post
    are you getting all red #s in the shroud in parts 2, 4 ?
    On some of the bosses in part 2, the sword puts out all red numbers. On the riff raff in part 2, I was using my vorpal. In part 4, I snuk it out and tried it on some of the riff raff, and it was putting out red numbers on the gnolls. The devils and the pit fiend are immune to acid damage, and the pit fiend has DR that turns the first number yellow. So I switched back to my 2hander for the Pit Fiend after testing it out.

    The stoneskin clicky is 16 minutes of 160 points, so that's nice. I figure I'll get some mileage out of this weapon, especially if I can upgrade it to the 4 AC boost. I just might not get as much mileage out of it in that particular raid. If I was making a weapon for the Shroud Raid, I'd probably make a maul or greatsword and go Holy + Good Burst + STR

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTheurge View Post
    Except what we've seen so far is actually based on traditional D&D.

    That is, Eberron doesn't have para- or quasi-elemental planes, but that's still what we're seeing for tier 2 effects.
    I know. But they're only going so far, and to make the numbers work. So it doesn't matter that D&D has Astral, Ethereal, and Shadow. Turbine's decided to go with Material and Ethereal. End of story. Nothing to see here. Move along, move along.

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    It's flaming and fiery burst - that's 1d6 fire damage on every hit from flaming, plus 1d6 on every hit with random Crit proc on flaming burst. They stack


    Unless someone with same elemental upgrade twice can confirm that the weapon does 2d6 base elemental damage, i don't think they stack.

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    DDO Wiki: Updated the Altar of Devastation with the known and speculated upgrades.
    Known Upgrades are Yellow for Weapons, Gold for Items
    Expected Upgrades are Pink - Those that have at least 1 confirmed item in the "pattern"
    No background is Suspected Upgrades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dworkin of Amber View Post
    DDO Wiki: Updated the Altar of Devastation with the known and speculated upgrades.
    Known Upgrades are Yellow for Weapons, Gold for Items
    Expected Upgrades are Pink - Those that have at least 1 confirmed item in the "pattern"
    No background is Suspected Upgrades.
    Sorting it by Focus is probably the least helpful sorting. Could you please sort it by Gem or Essence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    Sorting it by Focus is probably the least helpful sorting. Could you please sort it by Gem or Essence?
    I have added a version for the Altar of Invasion sorted by Gem & Essence.
    I will add similar versions later for Subjugation and Devastation... it just takes a bit of time to do that, and I wanted to focus on what is known/suspected first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    Sorting it by Focus is probably the least helpful sorting. Could you please sort it by Gem or Essence?
    He'll have the same issues any way around. I like it sorted by Focus myself.

    But here is a question for crafters.

    Can you do an item in a manner such as resitance (tier 1), saves (tier 2), spell points (tier 3)? Aka jumping all over the place but still get the synergies (aka air + fire, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dworkin of Amber View Post
    I have added a version for the Altar of Invasion sorted by Gem & Essence.
    I will add similar versions later for Subjugation and Devastation... it just takes a bit of time to do that, and I wanted to focus on what is known/suspected first.
    Invasion: You have Blindess Immunity for EON... it should be MON. EON should be a save bonus. And you can see this difference very clearly when NOT sorted by focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naso24 View Post
    My plan for my goggles:

    Neg (blindness immune, disease immune).
    Pos (+50 SP, +2 CHR skills)
    ??? (+100 SP, +3 ??? skills)

    I'm thinking about fire or earth. Anybody else tried this? Any thoughts on if there will be a special effect on the 3rd upgrade?
    Kargon are plannaming a necklamace with:
    Pos (+10 hp)
    Neg (Tier 2 of the blind immune, disease immune... kargon see what get)
    Fire (+__ hp)

    Kargon let know how turn out tonight probamally at least as far as tier 1 and 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    Invasion: You have Blindess Immunity for EON... it should be MON. EON should be a save bonus. And you can see this difference very clearly when NOT sorted by focus.
    I've fixed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    Sorting it by Focus is probably the least helpful sorting. Could you please sort it by Gem or Essence?
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    Ok, thanks for the feedback and the fix.

    After looking at it more, I am beginning to agree that sorted by Gem & Essence does make more sense, and helps show the "patterns" better.

    I have just swapped the view on Invasion & Subjugation to Sorted by Gem/Essence as primary, and by Element as the "Alternate View" page. There is a small possibility that any edits that happened in between might have gotten lost, so please double check (and I'll check the history too).

    I did create the "New" View for Subjugation, and I'll take care of Devastation later today... kinda fried on wiki-editing for the moment.

    NOTE: I will be doing all primary edits to the "Main" View (which is now sorted by Gem&Essence Types). I will try to go back every few days to update the alternate view (although I am considering dropping the Alt View completely... but I'll see what everyone wants first)
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    I'm planning on doing a pair of goggles via air+pos+air for the +6 Cha skill boost. Has anyone tried this combo yet on an item?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dworkin of Amber View Post
    although I am considering dropping the Alt View completely... but I'll see what everyone wants first
    I'd prefer you didn't. There are advantages to sorting by focus (notably, if I want to achieve a certain combo, I can scan through what abilities are available to me while still achieving that combo).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTheurge View Post
    You know the most remarkable thing about wikis...?
    Yes, I do.... I'm an admin on Wikipedia. I was also written up in Wired a few years back for my work on Wikipedia.

    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTheurge View Post
    I'd prefer you didn't. There are advantages to sorting by focus (notably, if I want to achieve a certain combo, I can scan through what abilities are available to me while still achieving that combo).
    Agreed... sorting by focus has a use, just not as the first sort, and especially while we are still discovering some of the patterns.

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    Ok, I'll leave it in place, and do what I can to keep it updated.
    I just swapped the view on Devastation, but I forgot to backup the old version, so I'll have to fiddle around the create the Devastation Alternate View Page... and I'll try to get that done this afternoon... I really do need to go eat some lunch here at some point!


    @Pecky - I don't think anyone has tried that combo yet. It should work for the +6 CHA Skills and +SP... the question is what kind of Tier 3 Effect (if any) you will get... so try it out, and let us know... the only way to learn all of this is trial and error and reporting your results... so good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dworkin of Amber View Post
    @Pecky - I don't think anyone has tried that combo yet. It should work for the +6 CHA Skills and +SP... the question is what kind of Tier 3 Effect (if any) you will get... so try it out, and let us know... the only way to learn all of this is trial and error and reporting your results... so good luck!
    It'll be a while yet. I'm still several large an some medium ingredients away but when I get it done, I'll let you know.

    *edit*

    BTW, Amber is my favorite fantasy series of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pecky View Post
    I'm planning on doing a pair of goggles via air+pos+air for the +6 Cha skill boost. Has anyone tried this combo yet on an item?
    No, but I'm going pos/air/pos on goggles so we can compare results

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    Quote Originally Posted by willphase View Post
    No, but I'm going pos/air/pos on goggles so we can compare results

    Garth
    *smirk*

    And you'll probably have yours done before me. I'm almost done collectin for Tier 2. Just need tier 3 stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    Invasion: You have Blindess Immunity for EON... it should be MON. EON should be a save bonus. And you can see this difference very clearly when NOT sorted by focus.
    I find the most useful order for research is Essence/Gem/Focus ... The patterns are VERY clear at that point.
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