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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambo View Post
    Earth & Air ..im thinking Acid Fog ....
    Very logical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    Very logical.
    Except the "Opposites" combos don't seem to be clickies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTheurge View Post
    Except the "Opposites" combos don't seem to be clickies.
    Yeah, but a spell that represent Fire and Water at the same time isn't that easy as Air and Earth (as lnog as Earth represents Acid). Same for Positive and Negative, I can't think of a spell. So, for that reason Turbine went with effects... I guess. But you coudl be right, but Steam gives Solid Fog and that Earth = Acid. Earth and Air could easily give Acid Fog (2/day).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LewsTherin View Post
    cloudy gem of opposition + inferior earth focus + diluted ethereal essence = +5 fort

    Attn: Cambo... you placed this under fire focus. Should be Earth.

    No one has tried Material + Opposition + Negative on an item yet?
    Considering that the positive version is Lesser Regeneration, Im very curious what the negative version is. If anyone knows, please share!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    Yeah, but a spell that represent Fire and Water at the same time isn't that easy as Air and Earth (as lnog as Earth represents Acid). Same for Positive and Negative, I can't think of a spell. So, for that reason Turbine went with effects... I guess. But you coudl be right, but Steam gives Solid Fog and that Earth = Acid. Earth and Air could easily give Acid Fog (2/day).
    First upgrade earth + second upgrade air (or 1st air, 2nd earth .. doesnt matter): +3 deflection, +3 resistance, +10 balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilen View Post
    First upgrade earth + second upgrade air (or 1st air, 2nd earth .. doesnt matter): +3 deflection, +3 resistance, +10 balance.
    I'm wrong.

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    On an accesory or weapon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilen View Post
    First upgrade earth + second upgrade air (or 1st air, 2nd earth .. doesnt matter): +3 deflection, +3 resistance, +10 balance.
    What's the Aspect (or lack thereof) called?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderun View Post
    On an accesory or weapon?
    Shouldn't matter... it's the aspect effect - it hasn't been different between weapon and item so far, I don't expect it will be for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    Shouldn't matter... it's the aspect effect - it hasn't been different between weapon and item so far, I don't expect it will be for this.
    air + earth = +3 deflection, +3 resistance, +10 balance on both wearable items & weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    Shouldn't matter... it's the aspect effect - it hasn't been different between weapon and item so far, I don't expect it will be for this.
    Wrong, there HAS been differences. Positive + Negative on weapon = 6 wisdom, Postive + Negative on item= +4 wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
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    Is that the score?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTheurge View Post
    Is that the score?
    Yeah, and it was intentional. Found it funnier like that. Was a typo at first, but left it like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilen View Post
    First upgrade earth + second upgrade air (or 1st air, 2nd earth .. doesnt matter): +3 deflection, +3 resistance, +10 balance.

    I knew i was right héhé.

    So contrary give special ability other than clicky being:

    Fire and Water
    Earth and Air
    Negative and Positive

    And about the positive + negative being equal, I'm pretty sure that to optimized this one you need to add fire, water, Earth or Air and probably each one of them would give a nice new effect. if you put 2 positive and one negative, this would imbalance the thing or 2 neg and 1 pos.

    Anyway, can't wait to see them tried

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjai View Post
    Wrong, there HAS been differences. Positive + Negative on weapon = 6 wisdom, Postive + Negative on item= +4 wisdom.
    Correct Ben .. and that particular focus combination is the only one that is different depending on whether it is applied
    to an item or a weapon. Well, actually .. there is only more more (first/second upgrade) combination that I have not been able to verify yet which is .. negative+water (or water+negative) .. should produce 'salt' .. which I suspect is Horrid Wilting 2/rest. (but that is just a guess)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjai View Post
    Wrong, there HAS been differences. Positive + Negative on weapon = 6 wisdom, Postive + Negative on item= +4 wisdom.
    I stand corrected. I'll sit down now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilen View Post
    air + earth = +3 deflection, +3 resistance, +10 balance on both wearable items & weapons.
    And what's it called?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleTrueheart View Post
    It would be interesting if someone with 2 items being worn spoke to this NPC.
    You can try. But her dialogue changes once you have been in the raid. She becomse a collector similar to the ancient tokens in the desert (but with specific items from the raid).

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilen View Post
    air + earth = +3 deflection, +3 resistance, +10 balance on both wearable items & weapons.
    Wow, a lot of these are sooo lackluster its just sad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Benjai View Post
    Wrong, there HAS been differences. Positive + Negative on weapon = 6 wisdom, Postive + Negative on item= +4 wisdom.
    Yeah ... I was really REALLY disppointed to see this one (Sorry Jin). Especially with the, well there's no other way to say it, utterly cra**y spell bump effects on weapon from Etheral/Dom combos. imp/grtr XXX SIX? Really? For a raid people are cast level 8 spells in? Shame on Turbine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    I stand corrected. I'll sit down now.



    And what's it called?
    Balance of Land and Sky as I recall.
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    Not sure if anyone has posted this but a guy in the last shroud run I was in messed up on the first upgrade and got Improved Devotion 6 on his longsword. Think the combo was Ethereal+Dominion+Positive. He was trying to make holy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosu View Post
    Not sure if anyone has posted this but a guy in the last shroud run I was in messed up on the first upgrade and got Improved Devotion 6 on his longsword. Think the combo was Ethereal+Dominion+Positive. He was trying to make holy.
    It's in post #3 of this thread. He messed up by using Ethereal instead of Material. Encourage him (if you know him) to try to fix it by using the upgrade he should have used... we need someone to try to do that.

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