Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[paul1devries]

If i have read everything correctly - can i assume that you can get an extra 45 hp if you upgrade the goggles three times correctly? By that i mean do the hit points stack?

I am thinking of making a set of goggles for spell poitns and another for hitpoints...

Cheers,
Brisket

[Gol]

For what it's worth, my khopesh that I did MDP/MDE no longer identifies with Taint on it. I'll try to remember to post a screenie tonight.

[Dworkin_of_Amber]

how long does the RSS feed take to pick up these changes? I'm not seeing the new pages on my tracker

That I do not know, but I moved the pages for everything but the main Crafting Page to fix the names of the pages (to match the 'corrected' naming scheme, so that might be part of the problem?

Something still just isn't right. Purely, nitpicking here (what can I say, I'm a perfectionist ). It looks like you're linking a recipe to make Raw Ingredients (which you don't make, you find). How about 'Recipes using Raw Ingredients' and 'Recipes using Manufactured Ingredients'? And as you know, you can just tell me to frak off. I'm okay with that, too.

I'm definitely voting for "Frack Off, you Toaster!"...

But seriously, that is fine... if you want to go and change the link descriptions, but I don't want to go change the page names again... but keep in mind that footer is on all of the Crafting Pages, so if you fix one, you have to fix them all! (sounds kinda Pokemon-like there, doesn't it! )

[Dworkin_of_Amber]

If i have read everything correctly - can i assume that you can get an extra 45 hp if you upgrade the goggles three times correctly? By that i mean do the hit points stack?

I am thinking of making a set of goggles for spell poitns and another for hitpoints...

Cheers,
Brisket

Yes, they do stack. Most of these new bonuses are using "Exceptional Bonus", which means that it stacks with all other bonuses except another exceptional bonus that is identical.

So "Exceptional Charisma +1" does *NOT* stack with "Exceptional Charisma +1", but it DOES stack with "Exceptional Charisma +2" and +3, and so on. Same with the hit points... it is using an Exceptional Bonus, so it stacks with the higher levels, for +45 HP total... but you can't wear 2 items with the +10 Hit Points to get +20.

[oronisi]

For what it's worth, my khopesh that I did MDP/MDE no longer identifies with Taint on it. I'll try to remember to post a screenie tonight.

Weapons never had the Taint, only items.

[Cowdenicus]

Weapons never had the Taint, only items.

But only the Mad Cow, could get the Devs to confirm how to remove me taint.........

[Mavnimo]

Just throwing this out. I believe only certain combos give title prefixes. Lieutenant, Great Commander, with Supreme Tyrant going on all tier 3 finals. Based off this, I think Combining only the recipes that give a title will resuslt in a special effect.

[apious1]

I will try to get you a screenshot as soon as possible, but one of the guys in my guild upgraded a pair of gloves last night using:
Tier 1: Negative + Opposition + Material; Clothing/Jewelry Attribute Added: Blindness Immunity, Disease Immunity
Tier 2: Negative + Opposition + Material; Clothing/Jewelry Attribute Added: Poison Immunity, Fear Immunity
Tier 3: Negative + Opposition + Material; Clothing/Jewelry Attribute Added: Deathblock

Negative + Negative + Negative Attribute was "Slay Living Guard" (Chance to Slay Living when melee attacked)

Just thought I'd let you all know.

[Burnrate]

Perhaps there is a relationship between the aspect and the item. I hope not, but it could be relate in some way. There are 12 weapon types and 8 items. Of the aspects there exist 6 pure, 12 quasi/para aspects, and 3 balanced aspects (tempered and what not). It could be that short swords are best suited to smoke for instance and warhammers for mineral and would therefore be required to reach smoke II or mineral II.

I kinda doubt it, but I thought I would throw it out there.

[steelblade]

what is with the great shards of power!? and how do you use them to upgread at alter of invasion?!
im going posetive

[Cowdenicus]

what is with the great shards of power!? and how do you use them to upgread at alter of invasion?!
im going posetive

reading the first page FTW

[steelblade]

reading the first page FTW

k thanks i read in it 5 times and could not find it >.<

[Erinyes]

Is it possible it has to do with the gems and essences used? Both of the recent examples (WEE/EEE and FOM/AOM) have used the same gem/essence combo at both levels.

(I'm basing the following idea on the stat increase items, since that's what I've been making with this morningstar.)

I'm hoping that this morningstar is on the right track. Right now, my plan is to do EEE third tier (going on the idea that thicker ooze is better than runny ooze. Yummy! ) If you notice (at least for stats) there are two kinds for each type. Earth and Water are both Wisdom, for example.

I mean, it only makes sense that most people would be looking for an item that focuses on something, right? No one is going to, for example, make a weapon that is, say, Tier 1 = +6 Con, Tier 2 = +1 Wis and then say, Tier 3 = +2 Chr. I assume most would go that route to get an item up to +9 for one stat, on one weapon. Seems like just a big mess otherwise, and "Magma II" or the equilvilant would have to be something really amazing for people to craft a Frankenstien item that has no purpose, just for a clickie or an unknown extra effect? There has to be some logic to these combinations (like what we have seen thus far) - I don't think the devs would expect people to create something competely useless and have that weird combo result in a SUPER item.

However, combining two elements, which both effect the same stat in the "correct" order, might mean something?

I'm not sure how this would apply across the board, but maybe if Tier 3 EEE works for "Ooze II", hopefully it will be a good starting point to figure the rest out. Now, to get more large parts!

[UtherSRG]

k thanks i read in it 5 times and could not find it >.<

To upgrade a greensteel item:
1. Combine the 12 raw ingredients (bone, chain, etc.) to make the 3 manufactured ingredients you need (gem, focus, essence). 4 ingredients + a power cell => 1 manufactured ingredient
2. Imbue the shard of power with the 3 manufactured ingredients. 3 manufactured ingredients + power cell + shard of power => imbued shard of power
3. upgrade your item with the imbued shard. 1 green steel + imbued shard + power cell => upgraded green steel item

[akla_thornfist]

id try to follow this guide to make my goggles was trying for the wiz6 first tier must have done something wrong ended up with +10 hp and +1 to concentration bunch of **** gonna recheck when i get home make sure i didnt mess up,

[MysticTheurge]

id try to follow this guide to make my goggles was trying for the wiz6 first tier must have done something wrong ended up with +10 hp and +1 to concentration bunch of **** gonna recheck when i get home make sure i didnt mess up,

You used material instead of ethereal essence.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Just throwing this out. I believe only certain combos give title prefixes. Lieutenant, Great Commander, with Supreme Tyrant going on all tier 3 finals. Based off this, I think Combining only the recipes that give a title will resuslt in a special effect.

This is the very reason why I asked Eladrin to confirm:

Can you confirm whether all 2nd tier para or quasi elemental combinations can be successfully upgraded into a 3rd tier 'bonus special effect', or just some of them?

All of them can be successfully upgraded.

I think Great Commander is just added when there isn't another prefix overriding, e.g. upgrading a weapon with pos/neg gives you a 'wise' prefix and not a Great Commander prefix, but from what Eladrin was saying it can still be upgraded to 'Existential Stalemate II' if you work out the correct 'tricky' combination.

But then again, I've been wrong before, and I might be wrong here too

Garth

[Coldin]

I've been kinda wondering something, and I was curious if any has tried this yet.

I went Air Dominion Material at the first 2 altars for my shortsword. I'm wondering if any special tier 3 effect would happen if I went with anything but Air. I was kind of thinking of going with Water or Positive. Or once you start with a double upgrade of the same type, you're stuck doing the same with the 3rd if you want the special bonus?

Has anyone tried using the same element twice, then throwing in a different element or a positive or negative?

[Erinyes]

I've been kinda wondering something, and I was curious if any has tried this yet.

I went Air Dominion Material at the first 2 altars for my shortsword. I'm wondering if any special tier 3 effect would happen if I went with anything but Air. I was kind of thinking of going with Water or Positive. Or once you start with a double upgrade of the same type, you're stuck doing the same with the 3rd if you want the special bonus?

Has anyone tried using the same element twice, then throwing in a different element or a positive or negative?

According to Ink's spreadsheet, Earth+Earth+Water and Earth+Earth+Positive have both been tried, with no special results. Negative+Negative+Positive also produced no extra effect.

[binnsr]

I've been kinda wondering something, and I was curious if any has tried this yet.

I went Air Dominion Material at the first 2 altars for my shortsword. I'm wondering if any special tier 3 effect would happen if I went with anything but Air. I was kind of thinking of going with Water or Positive. Or once you start with a double upgrade of the same type, you're stuck doing the same with the 3rd if you want the special bonus?

Has anyone tried using the same element twice, then throwing in a different element or a positive or negative?

According to Ink's spreadsheet, Earth+Earth+Water and Earth+Earth+Positive have both been tried, with no special results. Negative+Negative+Positive also produced no extra effect.

I'm still collecting large ingredients to try air/earth/positive .. hopefully we'll see something nice from adding pos/neg to a balanced tier II upgrade..