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    Huh. I wonder what the 3rd tier is for the Immunity items.
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    I don't see this updated yet.

    Material + Opposition + Negative + Goggles = Disease Immunity Green steel Goggles:

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    Disease Immunity
    Neg Energy Affinity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanka View Post
    Huh. I wonder what the 3rd tier is for the Immunity items.
    Deathblock seems like a natural, but probably there will be something else with it.
    Charm-immunity? Freedom of Movement would be grand...

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    Maybe some SR. Or Heavy Fort.


    BTW, i have a tempered item (water + Fire).

    I'm thinking, if something is tempered, Air would keep the balance right?

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    Material - Opposition - Negative (Blindness ward and Disease)
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    Material - Opposition - Negative 2nd Upgrade (Poison and Fear Immunity)
    http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...2ndupgrade.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post
    Deathblock seems like a natural, but probably there will be something else with it.
    Charm-immunity? Freedom of Movement would be grand...
    I'm hoping for Death Ward (as in full protection like the spell, not just protection from Death-effects) and FoM.

    Considering only one item in the game has perma-FoM, and it's raid loot, I could see it happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venar View Post
    Maybe some SR. Or Heavy Fort.
    Deathblock and Heavy Fort seem like a natural combination.

    With the added "flavor" advantage that it's making you more undead-like, since it is using a negative energy focus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanka View Post
    I'm hoping for Death Ward (as in full protection like the spell, not just protection from Death-effects) and FoM.
    Deathward seems unlikely, since there is a separate recipe series for a percentage resistance to negative energy damage. They wouldn't kill the value of that line by allowing 100% resistance in a single step.

    However, I suppose something like Negative-level immunity could go in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    It appears that the maker of these goggles which use material + Escalation + Earth did not get the full potential of the Tier Three addition which unlocks the full potential of the item or maybe there is no special earth ability. What is the difference between this example and the goggles which mavnimo made which appear to have reached the full potential with the greater disruption guard ability (
    Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Bracers of Positive Energy (Mavnimo) Ethereal + Escalation + Positive x 3..)? They both have the same element all three times one is earth and the other is positive so why doesn't earth get its special ability?....
    I have been told by PM even though it does not show up in the description that Earth Earth Eath grants Moderate Good Guard (1d8 damage vs Evil) as seen in the wearers caombat log.

    Earth Earth Earth = Moderate Good Guard/ Good Guard (Exact Description unkown) 1d8 vs Evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambo View Post
    I have been told by PM even though it does not show up in the description that Earth Earth Eath grants Moderate Good Guard (1d8 damage vs Evil) as seen in the wearers caombat log.

    Earth Earth Earth = Moderate Good Guard/ Good Guard (Exact Description unkown) 1d8 vs Evil
    Do you have a screenshot of the item? That sounds very suspicious, and I'd bet that this player actually put Positive on tier 3 instead.

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    Referring to my earlier post, it was stated by a dev its possible to get magma "I" and magma "II"

    magma is a combination of two elements. in order to get two aspects of magma, there have to be two "pairings"
    there are two pairings possible:

    aspect + focus2 and aspect + focus3

    or

    aspect + focus2 and focus2 + focus3


    I suspect it's the first.

    For second level bonuses your pairings have to complement each other to get a bonus.

    We know that in general Aspect of Air, Aspect of Air pairings works for bonuses, so its safe to say that two of the same aspect will give you a second level bonus.

    I suspect that:

    element a, element b, element b will also give you a second level bonus. For example:

    earth, fire, fire should be magma I and II
    fire, earth, earth should also be magma I and II
    earth,fire,earth would be aspect of magma and aspect of earth, which may or may not result in a second bonus
    fire,earth,fire would be aspect of magma and aspect of fire, which may or may not result in a second bonus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post
    However, I suppose something like Negative-level immunity could go in.
    Deathblock and Heavy Fortification then?
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    so basically what Eladrin is saying with no para-quasis and such is if you started some goggles with positive (and have yet to upgrade a second or third time) you have basically wasted a set of goggles?
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    (Standard): Altar of Invasion success with Shavarath Shard Formulation! Consumed: Diluted Ethereal Essence, Inferior Focus of Negative Energy, Cloudy Gem of Opposition, Shavarath Low Energy Cell. Created: Shard of Power. Shard of Power becomes Shard of Power.

    (Standard): Altar of Invasion success with Shavarath Transformation! Consumed: Shavarath Low Energy Cell, Shard of Power. Created: Green Steel Goggles. Green Steel Goggles becomes Lieutenant Green Steel Goggles of Resistance (Fortitude).

    Negative, Ethereal, Opposition for first upgrade

    (Standard): Altar of Subjugation success with Shavarath Shard Formulation! Consumed: Material Essence, Focus of Negative Energy, Shavarath Medium Energy Cell, Gem of Opposition. Created: Shard of Great Power. Shard of Great Power becomes Shard of Great Power.

    (Standard): Altar of Subjugation success with Shavarath Transformation! Consumed: Shavarath Medium Energy Cell, Shard of Great Power. Created: Lieutenant Green Steel Goggles of Resistance (Fortitude). Lieutenant Green Steel Goggles of Resistance (Fortitude) becomes Proof against Poison Green Steel Goggles of Resistance (Fortitude).

    Negative, Material, Opposition for second upgrade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowdenicus View Post
    so basically what Eladrin is saying with no para-quasis and such is if you started some goggles with positive (and have yet to upgrade a second or third time) you have basically wasted a set of goggles?
    No. You can go PPP for the Greater Disruption Guard and the True Res clickie. I'd hardly call those wasted. And I don't think anyone has tried PNelemental yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowdenicus View Post
    so basically what Eladrin is saying with no para-quasis and such is if you started some goggles with positive (and have yet to upgrade a second or third time) you have basically wasted a set of goggles?
    Quote Originally Posted by UtherSRG View Post
    No. You can go PPP for the Greater Disruption Guard and the True Res clickie. I'd hardly call those wasted. And I don't think anyone has tried PNelemental yet.
    P-N-? seem as though it's telling us it has possibilities. We just don't know what they are yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTheurge View Post
    P-N-? seem as though it's telling us it has possibilities. We just don't know what they are yet.
    Yup. But will all PN-elemental combinations result in a third tier combo, or will only some? And do the gem and/or essence make a difference there? And how about if it is a weapon vs. a non-weapon?

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    Too bad about the immunity pairing.

    Blindness + Fear Immune would have been perfect for Warforged.
    Blindness + Poison would have been perfect for paladins.

    Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowdenicus View Post
    so basically what Eladrin is saying with no para-quasis and such is if you started some goggles with positive (and have yet to upgrade a second or third time) you have basically wasted a set of goggles?
    I never said that.

    If you put Positive on it at stage one, you have quite a number of possibilities open to you at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venar View Post
    Too bad about the immunity pairing.

    Blindness + Fear Immune would have been perfect for Warforged.
    Blindness + Poison would have been perfect for paladins.

    Oh well.
    pretty sure thats why they did that like that

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