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    In my above examples, I do wonder about one thing though. For example:

    fire/fire/fire results in one thing because you get fire/fire at second and fire/fire at third
    fire/fire/air in another because you get fire/fire at second and fire/air at third
    fire/air/fire in another because you get fire/air at second and fire/fire at third

    In the last two examples, I wonder if the second level fire/fire has a different bonus than the third level fire/fire. Just like each altar imparts differnent things, what level you take the combo may do different things.

    In other words, say for example you have earth/fire at the second tier, you get magma I.

    But, at the third tier, suppose you don't have magma I, if you have the earth/fire combination for the third tier, do you get magma II, or do you get magma I? In other words, is the strength of the combo dependant upon whether it was done at tier 2 or tier 3, or is the strength of the combo dependant upon if you have the earlier form or not.
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    Isnt there a band name Earth Wind and Fire? And one of the quests is named after a song ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SneakThief View Post
    Isnt there a band name Earth Wind and Fire? And one of the quests is named after a song ....
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SneakThief View Post
    And two of the quests are named after songs ....
    Fixed.

    Rainbow in the Dark.

    Running with the Devil(s).
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    Hey I've been lurking in this thread for a while and wanted to let you all know how much I enjoy reading it and appreciate your efforts. You guys are way ahead of me on this so its great you are sharing your info with everyone.

    BTW, I will sacrifice a green steel item in the adamantine ritual (once I get enough shards - 10,000?!!!) in the name of science. In any case, I'm getting close. If you want to donate shards to speed up teh process, you call mail them to Wravven on Ghallanda.

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterboy View Post
    BTW, I will sacrifice a green steel item in the adamantine ritual (once I get enough shards - 10,000?!!!) in the name of science.
    It should just be the minimum level squared. So 121? 144?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTheurge View Post
    It should just be the minimum level squared. So 121? 144?
    To bind yes but for the admantine ritual I need the soul gems...right?

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    I was wondering something, has anyone tried 3 identical (like earth + earth + earth) but with the dominion gem for the 3 of them. Just got an idea and wanted to know if it had any lead, or the same but with escalation gem all the way.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrdinn View Post
    I was wondering something, has anyone tried 3 identical (like earth + earth + earth) but with the dominion gem for the 3 of them. Just got an idea and wanted to know if it had any lead, or the same but with escalation gem all the way.

    Thanks
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    Default So ... let me get this straight???

    If I understand Eladrin correctly...

    These hitherto undiscovered para, quasi and special upgrades can only be done at the ALTAR OF DEVESTATION (in other words, "Teir 3" upgrades). Is this correct?

    The lingo is throwing me for a loopo.

    Teir 1 = invasion altar, Teir 2=Subjugation altar, Teir 3=Devestation altar . Is this the lingo we are using here?

    Or are we saying that Teir 1 = chest ingredients, Teir 2=manufactured ingredients, Teir 3 = shard(s) of power into weapon?

    I am unsure of the terminology. It would definitely make it easier if we were all on the same page with the "TEIR" lingo! LOL
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    Does it affect the potentcy of your item/effect if you don't use the same recipie at each level?

    In other words, if you use a different combination at the tier 1 and tier 2 altars, do you get the actual 'tier 2' effect still, or do you get the tier 1 effect of whatever the 2nd recipie you used was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallie View Post
    Does it affect the potentcy of your item/effect if you don't use the same recipie at each level?

    In other words, if you use a different combination at the tier 1 and tier 2 altars, do you get the actual 'tier 2' effect still, or do you get the tier 1 effect of whatever the 2nd recipie you used was?
    actuamal 'tier 2' so mix away, and find some interestaming combinimatimions for us!

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    +DM//EDM Khopesh:



    Nothing unexpected there. FYI you can't cast the stoneskin on other people - it's self only.

    I tested the acid and holy damage. On a normal hit you get base+acid+holy as can be seen here. On a critical you get base+acid+acidburst+holy as can be seen here.

    I hope this helps anyone still deciding on whether to go this route.

    If anyone has any guesses what a good 3rd tier upgrade for 'mineral' (pos/earth) is then please let me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterboy View Post
    To bind yes but for the admantine ritual I need the soul gems...right?
    Oh yes. You're right, forgive my brain malfunction.

    Quote Originally Posted by jperz View Post
    The lingo is throwing me for a loopo.

    Teir 1 = invasion altar, Teir 2=Subjugation altar, Teir 3=Devestation altar . Is this the lingo we are using here?

    Or are we saying that Teir 1 = chest ingredients, Teir 2=manufactured ingredients, Teir 3 = shard(s) of power into weapon?

    I am unsure of the terminology. It would definitely make it easier if we were all on the same page with the "TEIR" lingo! LOL
    Unfortunately, different people seem to be using those two sets of tiers interchangeably in different situations at different points in time. Mostly in this thread, though, Tier refers to the three altars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eladrin View Post
    A weapon with, say, "Magma I" on it at Tier Two can be upgraded to "Magma II" at Tier Three.
    Anyone thought of trying two foci at Devastation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    Anyone thought of trying to foci at Devastation?
    Hmm like to use more than one Imbued Shard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticTheurge View Post
    Hmm like to use more than one Imbued Shard?
    Yes... or using another focus when mixing the shard with the weapon.
    Anything that mixes elementals so you can use more than one at the same time.
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    Well they keep talking about 3 types of 3rd affinity combinations:

    para
    quasi
    special


    para is the combination between adjacent elements:
    examples are
    fire / fire / air
    water / earth / water

    quasi is combining an element with either positive or negative
    examples are
    fire / positive / fire
    water / negative / negative

    The devs have said plainly that "para-quasi" isnt in the game, so we dump the possibility of fire / positive / air and similar

    Now we're left with special. But special cannot be para, or quasi, or para-quasi.

    That means special must be opposing elements.
    examples are
    fire / water / fire
    earth / earth / air


    Now what we need is someone to try it

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    Quote Originally Posted by willphase View Post
    +DM//EDM Khopesh:
    If anyone has any guesses what a good 3rd tier upgrade for 'mineral' (pos/earth) is then please let me know
    Garth

    Well, you've made a "quasi-elemental" weapon, which means to continue to unlock it's full potential you need to continue to upgrade it as quasi-elemental... that gives you have 2 choices:

    Earth
    Positive


    Anything else is going to gimp your weapon. (the devs have stated that para-quasi-elemental is not in the game)

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    Default Stone of Change

    I made a pair of Green Steel Bracers tonight and then bound/attuned them.

    http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?i...attunedsi3.jpg

    Still says tainted. When I get enough shards for soulstones I will go forward with the adamantine ritual to see if that removes the taint.

    Risk: Probably low probability but there may be a chance that making them Adamantine supresses the green steel characteristics - possibly cleansing it...and also possibly preventing any additional effects on the item - since its adamantine now and not green steel. I'd be surprised if that happened but you never know.

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