Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[UtherSRG]

Have you tired any Gems at all...might be a nice reason to collect gems rather selling the for pittance.
Thanks for the information.

My wizard on Ghallanda has all 48 gems. When Mod 6 is released, I'll be trying all of them. (1 large bag, 1 medium bag, 1 small bag...)

I'd try it on Risia, but Risia keeps telling me I don't have the latest version of the client installed..... so I uninstalled it and reinstalled it and it still doesn't let me on.

[UtherSRG]

Ok well after putting in a full day on Risia and with some help from 2 new friends and a few old ones. I have made an ingredient chart.

First I'll get to how the system works:

Basically the way I understand the new crafting system to work is,

1. you farm ingredients from the Vale and the mod 6 quests

2. you farm power-stones from the quests(these bind)

3. after you have 40 favor with the 12, and have the 5 power-stones(1 drops in each quest) you gain access to a different eldric device in Miridia, also access to the raid zone is granted.

4. you then can combine the 6 different tier 1 ingredients(pulled from mod 6 chests) to make tier 2 ingredients.

5. (here is where the speculation begins) after beating the first wave in the raid zone a special eldric device appears, at which point you can put in an item, and a number of ingredients. I'm not sure if they will allow tier 1 ingredients in the recipe but if they do I'm sure they will produce mediocre results at best. Also I'm fairly confidant that more rare/powerful ingredients are waiting in deeper points of the raid zone. I'd be willing to bet that each ingredient(or combination) will produce a certain effect in the loot table. This will be the hard part, tracking down what ingredients do what to what type of items.

As it stands right now the chart is incomplete, all named slots have been verified, all ??? may not even exist but then they would have 2 recipes for one ingredient.(can't do that if your trying to hit 1200)

1st tier is across the top and the 2nd is down the left.

Anyways here is the chart.

On a side note there is also a chance that tier 3 ingredients exist or that it takes many tier 2 ingredients to make a quality item( this just may be MMO crafting at its best/worse)

Great... now can you give us all read access to the chart?

[Borror0]

Great... now can you give us all read access to the chart?

Ok, so I'm not the only one.

[Tanka]

Anyways here is the chart.

Might want to make that publically accessible.

[arcanehealer]

you mean the raid isn't as easy to get to as ts

[Tanka]

I'm guessing it means "run the five pre-quests, you're ready, forever."

'Cuz if you could just hop right in to the raid without becoming prepared for what's gonna be in there, and gaining access to the new raid loot system, then there'd be some serious issues going on.

[Shadow_Flayer]

you mean the raid isn't as easy to get to as ts

If I read this right it looks like you only need to do the five quests to get the stones (one dropping in each quest) to get flagged. That doesn't seem too high a hurdle. Certainly not as easy as TS, but not crazy like the Abbott either. More like the Twilight Forge, which has a good system for flagging.

[Tanka]

If I read this right it looks like you only need to do the five quests to get the stones (one dropping in each quest) to get flagged. That doesn't seem too high a hurdle. Certainly not as easy as TS, but not crazy like the Abbott either. More like the Twilight Forge, which has a good system for flagging.

Indeed. The VoNs would have been a good system, were it not for having to reflag every time you run it.

[CaptGrim]

sry it was late, and I'm a noob at google doc's....try agian

[Mad_Bombardier]

sry it was late, and I'm a noob at google doc's....try agian

Nope. Are you perhaps linking the edit option instead of the spreadsheet itself?

[CaptGrim]

If I read this right it looks like you only need to do the five quests to get the stones (one dropping in each quest) to get flagged. That doesn't seem too high a hurdle. Certainly not as easy as TS, but not crazy like the Abbott either. More like the Twilight Forge, which has a good system for flagging.

Well it's not to bad, you could do it in 1 very long session, More on par with titan your right, Except these are the longest quests in the game...seriously. Just the maps alone are comparable in size to GH or the other smaller adventure areas.

I have no doubt that first time grps and pugs won't finish them with 100% success, Buy all the major pots you can they are about to skyrocket in price.

[Endrik]

Buy all the major pots you can they are about to skyrocket in price.

Can I correctly assume that by this you're inferring that early groups will run out of mana in attempting to complete the quests? I'm not certain that will have much of an affect on major mnemonic pots... (or am I incorrectly understanding your meaning?)

[CaptGrim]

Can I correctly assume that by this you're inferring that ALL groups will run out of mana in attempting to complete the quests? I'm not certain that will have much of an affect on major mnemonic pots... (or am I incorrectly understanding your meaning?)

fixed it

well IMO as a caster you have 4 options.

1. conserve, conserve, conserve. back to the good Ol' days of using a spell only when necessary and not nuking everything u see

2. run out of SP and not contribute till shrine on normal resets or till the end on hard and elite.

3. run out of SP and recall out for mana. ( if the grp waits it will take a long time for you to get back in, yes some have shrines close but, the size of the quests make it so it is a PITA for everyone to wait on you.)

4. run out of SP and drink a pot.


Like I said earlier in this thread I think they are balancing casters in this mod without nerfing them.

[CaptGrim]

sry double post

[Endrik]

Grim,

Understood... In summary, some casters may have to learn to adapt their tactics a bit... Something more in line with what you'd expect from an explorer, vice a zerger. With that said though, isn't there a new mechanic being implemented with shrines to allow multiple uses?

Tough to find strategic casters these days (other than those soloing), but they certainly are out there. (And I love being the cleric when I get to see one in action!)

[MysticTheurge]

Understood... In summary, some casters may have to learn to adapt their tactics a bit... Something more in line with what you'd expect from an explorer, vice a zerger. With that said though, isn't there a new mechanic being implemented with shrines to allow multiple uses?

Only on normal.

[Endrik]

That HARD will be harder? Excellent.

In all seriousness, I am in favor of allowing the casual player (into which category I occasionally fall) the resources needed to enjoy learning new quests...

**Thanks for the explanation, btw MT..**

[Lauranthis]

You can read my findings here http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=133153 to see the findings of the known ingredients.

Thanks for Looking,

Sagittia - Powered by kaTet - Fernia

[CaptGrim]

You can read my findings here http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=133153 to see the findings of the known ingredients.

Thanks for Looking,

Sagittia - Powered by kaTet - Fernia

Thanks for all the info yesterday and today Sag... I'm going to update the chart now... take a look at it to find the remaining possible combos.

[Lauranthis]

Thanks for all the info yesterday and today Sag... I'm going to update the chart now... take a look at it to find the remaining possible combos.

NP mate... let me know the findings, and what i need to farm LOL