Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[UtherSRG]

Got this from 12:05 AM Draiden in a PM


2nd upgrade (medium):
Material-Opposition-Positive
+20% Healing Amplification

What's the 1st upgrade for MOP?

[Borror0]

What's the 1st upgrade for MOP?

He probably did something else or something already known for the first one.

[ChildrenofBodom]

The only information we know is listed in message #3 of this thread. To wit:



So no, we don't know Water + Water + Water.

Sweet, that's what I'll do then to help out.

[Cambo]

I knew it!

Context: I argued with someone that Positive would be +% to healing. Seems I'm right. /dance

Make enough guesses and you will get 1 right

REGARDING MOP Lieutenant upgrade - yes he did something different...

The correct terminologies for the upgrades should be

Lieutenant
Great Commander
Supreme Tyrant


I have put full instructions for Making Supreme tyrant Wizardry VI item here as many people want these
Still to type out the last section (Supreme Upgrade)
Please advise if it needs correction or clarification if anyone has a moment to read it.

[MysticTheurge]

What's the 1st upgrade for MOP?

He probably did something else or something already known for the first one.

But if I had to guess, I'd say +10% healing amplification.

[Borror0]

But if I had to guess, I'd say +10% healing amplification.

I'd say 15%. Negative Absorption is 15%, so an increment of 5%, so 25% for the third upgrade.

[Turial]

What does healing amplification do? Is it like potency and it just increases the amount of damage?

[Snoggy]

Shard Formulation
** Since the tier 1 AC does not stack with the tier 2 AC (And presumably not with Tier 3) Unless you are interested in only 1 AC bonus and picking something else for the other tiers it is a waste to follow the same path. Pick only the level of AC bonus that you want to end up with and choose other options for other upgrades.

First off ... great thread. Great work by everyone involved. I come back to this thread a few times a day just to see what successes people are having with the raid. It's almost as fun as making my own item through the raid.



Now onto my question ... has anyone made the tier 3 AC upgrade yet? I'm still collecting ingredients (only have my blank made so far) and right now was considering going Holy Damage in tier 1, Acid Burst (or shocking burst) in tier 2, and AC upgrade in Tier 3. I'd just like to know if anyone made a tier 3 AC upgrade yet to know if it indeed does exist and if it is indeed 3 to AC.

Thanks!

[Borror0]

What does healing amplification do? Is it like potency and it just increases the amount of damage?

My guess is that's it's like Human Recovery.

[ChildrenofBodom]

What does healing amplification do? Is it like potency and it just increases the amount of damage?

Let's say a cleric casted a cure light on you. The cleric heals you for 10 damage, if you have the healing amplification on then that 10 damage does 11 damage. 10% of 10 is 1, 10 + 1 = 11. It's like the human enhancement. Just amplifies how much you get healed.


EDIT:

My guess is that's it's like Human Recovery.

Correct.

[SneakThief]

I'd say 15%. Negative Absorption is 15%, so an increment of 5%, so 25% for the third upgrade.

Yeah but Acid is only 5% so we know they dont have to be the same.

[Cambo]

First off ... great thread. Great work by everyone involved. I come back to this thread a few times a day just to see what successes people are having with the raid. It's almost as fun as making my own item through the raid.



Now onto my question ... has anyone made the tier 3 AC upgrade yet? I'm still collecting ingredients (only have my blank made so far) and right now was considering going Holy Damage in tier 1, Acid Burst (or shocking burst) in tier 2, and AC upgrade in Tier 3. I'd just like to know if anyone made a tier 3 AC upgrade yet to know if it indeed does exist and if it is indeed 3 to AC.

Thanks!

Nobody has confirmed + 3 AC but it is very likelywith the following Spreme Upgrades

Ethereal + Opposition + Earth= Wpn: ??+3 AC** -:- Equip:
Ethereal + Opposition + Positive = Wpn: ??+3 AC** -:- Equip:
Ethereal + Opposition + Negative = Wpn: ??+3 AC** -:- Equip:

just dont sue me if its wrong..

[Mad_Bombardier]

But if I had to guess, I'd say +10% healing amplification.

But, then would tier1 10% stack with tier2 20% for total 30%? Or is it 10%+10% = 20%? (not that MT can answer directly, just wondering. )

[Borror0]

But, then would tier1 10% stack with tier2 20% for total 30%? Or is it 10%+10% = 20%? (not that MT can answer directly, just wondering. )

And would be:

You are healed of 100 HP by Cleanup.
You have Human Improved Recovery I, you are healed of 110.
You have +10% Healing Amplification, you are healed of 121.
You have +20% Healing Amplification, you are healed of 145.

Or

You are healed of 100 HP by Cleanup.
You have Human Improved Recovery I, you are healed of 110.
You have +10% Healing Amplification, you are healed of 120.
You have +20% Healing Amplification, you are healed of 130.

But doubt it'd stack.

[Cambo]

Nothing to see

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

Looking at the earth/earth/earth weapon combo with 3rd upgrade effect 'Earthgrab' moves my thinking on this. I believe this indicates (from the description) that there will be a set of 3rd upgrade special effects for weapons, and a different set for items. I base this off of the "When this weapon is used .." portion of the description.

I agree. Look at the 'greater disruption guard' on a +EE/+EE/+EE item - perhaps this becomes just 'greater disruption' on a weapon. In addition, earthgrab might become 'chance of earthgrab on being hit'.

To those people maintaining tables/spreadsheets, can you distinguish special effects between items and weapons please.

Cheers,

Garth

[Petro]

My eyes are blurry from reading trying to find an answer to a question I have so I'll ask it here. Sorry if this has been asked and answered already.

What happens when you use the same Item in the same alter with different upgrades? Do the upgrades stay or do they get replaced with the most recent upgrade. Example, say I want to make a Green Cloak and use the alter of invasion to imbue the cloak with 4 attributes from that alter. Is it possible to make a cloak with Greater Fire, Acid, Lightning, Cold resistance?

Thanks

[MysticTheurge]

What happens when you use the same Item in the same alter with different upgrades? Do the upgrades stay or do they get replaced with the most recent upgrade. Example, say I want to make a Green Cloak and use the alter of invasion to imbue the cloak with 4 attributes from that alter. Is it possible to make a cloak with Greater Fire, Acid, Lightning, Cold resistance?

I've been told you cannot re-enchant an item at the same altar and attempting to do so just wastes your power cell.

(But I can't confirm this from personal experience.)

[Cambo]

I agree. Look at the 'greater disruption guard' on a +EE/+EE/+EE item - perhaps this becomes just 'greater disruption' on a weapon. In addition, earthgrab might become 'chance of earthgrab on being hit'.

To those people maintaining tables/spreadsheets, can you distinguish special effects between items and weapons please.

Cheers,

Garth

As soon as somebody shows results that are significantly different between the 2 items I will break up the effects.
To date its only been a very slight variation on tempered i think (-2Wis)

[Angelus_dead]

To those people maintaining tables/spreadsheets, can you distinguish special effects between items and weapons please.

I'm sure they'll make that distinction just as soon as anyone reports using the same 3rd tier combo on a weapon and a clothing.