Stone of Change - Eldritch Rituals Cookbook

[stockwizard5]

Anyone tried out the stacking of Greensteel Guard Items?

Does Minor Good Guard stack with Lesser Good Guard?
Does Minor Good Guard stack with Minor Fire Guard?
Does Minor Good Guard (item 1) stack with Minor Good Guard (item 2)?
Does GS Fire Guard stack with Non-GS Fire Guard?

I am assuming Yes, Yes, No, and No but wonder if anyone has tested any of these (or equivelent)?

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

So fire overrides positive on a radiance weapon 3rd tier effect?

Yes

Garth

[Ikuryo]

I don't know of anyone that has bothered with the guard effects.. I might have considered making a guard item if it went lesser, normal, and greater guard but minor guard is just not worth the effort.

A fun guard item for a main tank would be pos/air/air+pos. Chance of a 600pnt guard effect would kill most anything hitting you.

[stockwizard5]

Currently (and it may change before I am done typing this) Gang is planning on Lightning and Salt with multiple guards. Before spending 48 large - I just was wondering if anyone has any test data on multiple guard items.

I might also go Radiance (if there is such a thing) if I had any idea what the damage/effect/rate might be?

Steam is also still a possibility but I have ruled out EM, Dust, and Water.

[Borror0]

Steam is also still a possibility but I have ruled out EM, Dust, and Water.

Steam is nice since it's untyped. Proc'd pretty often on weapons.

[slumbering_dragon]

do we have any clue what dust, ooz, and vacume does for weapons?

[stockwizard5]

do we have any clue what dust, ooz, and vacume does for weapons?

Dust and Vacuum as expected - have not seen Ooze.

[darthmaul121783]

is their any restrictions on grenstell weapons

can i make a holy good burst good blast weapon for my non good charactor or is it like if i pulled it and just can't use it?

[Depravity]

do we have any clue what dust, ooz, and vacume does for weapons?

Dust -I think - is an occasional disintegrate effect. It's supposedly been fixed as of mod 7, but I haven't seen a screenshot or any testing of it.

ooze acts like destruction, occasionally dropping AC by 4 on target (this stacks with destruction and sunder, for a possible 12 off of AC), and also occasionally spawns an ooze of some sort (want to say cr12 black pudding)

Vacuum is an occasional trap the soul effect, apparently the 20-HD version only, and either has an insanely low proc rate or possibly only goes off once per "day".

You can check http://ddo.enterwiki.net/page/Altar_...edient_Recipes for a nice list off tier three effects.

[Borror0]

Dust -I think - is an occasional disintegrate effect. It's supposedly been fixed as of mod 7, but I haven't seen a screenshot or any testing of it.

I've been a lazy ass at editing the wiki, I've seen both myself.

[tihocan]

is their any restrictions on grenstell weapons

can i make a holy good burst good blast weapon for my non good charactor or is it like if i pulled it and just can't use it?

The only "restriction" is if you make an unholy weapon for a good character, who will suffer a negative level.

[tihocan]

do we have any clue what dust, ooz, and vacume does for weapons?

You can check my planner, it has some descriptions.

[darthmaul121783]

tihocan Quote:
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Originally Posted by darthmaul121783
is their any restrictions on grenstell weapons

can i make a holy good burst good blast weapon for my non good charactor or is it like if i pulled it and just can't use it?

The only "restriction" is if you make an unholy weapon for a good character, who will suffer a negative level.
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thanks for the info

[Missing_Minds]

Anyone tried out the stacking of Greensteel Guard Items?

Does Minor Good Guard stack with Lesser Good Guard?
Does Minor Good Guard stack with Minor Fire Guard?
Does Minor Good Guard (item 1) stack with Minor Good Guard (item 2)?
Does GS Fire Guard stack with Non-GS Fire Guard?

I am assuming Yes, Yes, No, and No but wonder if anyone has tested any of these (or equivelent)?

minor guards arn't worth it, however, yes, they stack quite nicely.

I've lost track of the number of doggies I've killed just because they knocked me down and kept biting.
And yes, guard effect of shroud stack with non shroud guard effects.

I'm wearing acid guard full plate, chord of reprisals, radiance II goggles with fire guard, air bracers with lighting guard, and I plan on adding 2 or 3 more guard effects.

[Missing_Minds]

Currently (and it may change before I am done typing this) Gang is planning on Lightning and Salt with multiple guards. Before spending 48 large - I just was wondering if anyone has any test data on multiple guard items.

I might also go Radiance (if there is such a thing) if I had any idea what the damage/effect/rate might be?

Steam is also still a possibility but I have ruled out EM, Dust, and Water.

Radiance is very nice. Some times I see it go off on entier mobs, some times it takes away for it to strike again.
damage is.. 4d6 light damage and blindness. blindness does not work on red or purple named. Light still does damage.

It does however, kick in about.. 10 times more often than the air (air air air) knock down effect does.

Salt and steam are nice because of the untyped damage.

[Missing_Minds]

So fire overrides positive on a radiance weapon 3rd tier effect?

any element overrides good or negative.
good overrides negative.

[Gratch]

Wonder if Cambo could include a slightly longer section on cleansing stones at the front. Specific answers to questions I had:

• a bound cleansing stone is guaranteed on each 20th (multiple) reward list (as the last item)
• the cleansing stone can be applied at the Devestation (part 5 of shroud) altar to any greenweave/steel equipment regardless of its current upgraded level.
• cleansing an unbound greensteel/weave item does not currently bind it... so it can be cleansed by one character and then mailed/transferred.

Let me know if I misread/misheard.

My cleric and fighter are about to hit their 20th shroud runs... wanted to make sure my cleric that is mostly good on +3 tomes can take the cleansing stone leaving the fighter to get the +3 tome on their reward screen (if present)... even though it's the fighter that needs a shroud item cleansed. That said, I'll probably complete first with the fighter as I'll take a cleansing stone if no +3 tomes are offered.

Edit: Updated with corrections.

[Angelus_dead]

the cleansing stone can be applied at the Meridia altar to any greenweave/steel regardless of its current upgraded level.

It works at the Devastation altar, not the Meridia altar. There is a rumor that some green helmets cannot be cleansed, but I don't believe it.

cleansing an unbound greensteel/weave item does not bind it... so it can be cleansed by one character and then mailed/transferred.

That's true, but seems unlikely to have been the designers' intention, so it's risky to rely on.

[Borror0]

That's true, but seems unlikely to have been the designers' intention, so it's risky to rely on.

Is the cleansing stone itself bound?

[incubo]

Is the cleansing stone itself bound?

Yes they bind!